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Sloth
11-24-2014, 11:31 PM
Ironically I've responded to a lot of other people's INTP vs. ENTP threads with my slothy 2 cents about it, and have mentioned I've often wondered it about myself but for certain reasons I've ended up with the conclusion that I'm in fact INTP.

Recently though, I've been paying more attention to how I actually behave and not so much to how I think people make me feel (which I often perceive myself to be drained by them more so than energized). My actions say otherwise though.

My ENFP friend recently visited me from out of town, and I was finding that I was wanting to go out and do things more than she was (I'd swear she was an introvert if I didn't see her constantly texting literally 30 different people a day). She said to me "I think you're more extroverted than you realize." and I've had other friends of mine say that to me as well.

Normally I'll just dismiss it as "Yeah, but they don't know how I feel on the inside." and "As we age we just develop the 'flaws' of our type and balance out, introverts become more extroverted with age and vice versa. I'm just a growing INTP."

I'm realizing though...

I constantly go out to bars and meet new people all the time. I hate sitting home at night... but I interpreted that as "Oh it's just because I'm single and in my 20s."

I've never ever been the kind of person that only wanted 1 group of close friends, I've always hung out with lots of different not-so-close friends. I always interpreted it as I'm just and introvert with trust issues... maybe that's not what it is though.

I live for adventure and experiencing new things, which is why I work in the career that I work in. No two jobs are alike, and I'm constantly around different people and am always meeting new ones.


Since INTPs and ENTPs have the same functions, as we know it isn't always so easy to tell them apart from one another especially since ENTP is considered one of if not the most introverted extrovert. Supposedly the defining factor is the difference in what they both do with new information, the ENTP is a lot more fluid and immediate with their interpretations whereas the INTP is a little slower to settle on where an idea fits into whatever grander system is applicable to the new information. It's hard to know which is which though because the INTP is a power thinker and can do this seemingly fairly quickly.

I'm friggin confused. What do you folks think? Maybe I'm ambiverted?

I've known a few confirmed ENTPs and they just seem overall more energetic and aggressive than the INTPs I've known. I don't have a desire to get into a debate about everything (although I did in my early 20's something fierce), and I know ENTPs have sort of an obsession with feeling right even if they're actually wrong (I couldn't care less about being right, I just want to know what's actually correct).

Halp!

Blorg
11-24-2014, 11:41 PM
I'm not much of an MBTI person but you strike me as an ENTP.

It's hard to describe but I guess you have this layer of effusiveness that seems to rest on a distant, maybe cynical, analytical, and reserved backdrop-- like you're a big fan of fun and fun people but you don't like giving into it fully/sacrificing that underlying aloof watchfulness. I don't know you well but that's my impression and it seems ENTP-ish.

OrionzRevenge
11-24-2014, 11:48 PM
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Since INTPs and ENTPs have the same functions, as we know it isn't always so easy to tell them apart from one another especially since ENTP is considered one of if not the most introverted extrovert. Supposedly the defining factor is the difference in what they both do with new information, the ENTP is a lot more fluid and immediate with their interpretations whereas the INTP is a little slower to settle on where an idea fits into whatever grander system is applicable to the new information. It's hard to know which is which though because the INTP is a power thinker and can do this seemingly fairly quickly.

I'm friggin confused. What do you folks think? Maybe I'm ambiverted?

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Not so much IMO.

I think key in pigeon-holing the difference is looking at when & where our personality is under stress vis-a-vis our shadow functions
INTP= Fe
ENTP=Si



Was That Really Me?: How Everyday Stress Brings Out Our Hidden Personality
by Naomi L. Quenk (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Was-That-Really-Me-Personality/dp/0891061703

Psychologist Naomi Quenk discusses the stress patterns that various personality types experience. Using Jungian psychological type theory and the MBTI© personality inventory, Quenk helps readers turn their moments of stress into gems of personal understanding and growth. Work-related stress and the effects of stress over time are both explored in Was That Really Me?, as is a simple explanation of type dynamics, type differentiation, and type development. Including discussions of how each of the sixteen personality types functions at work and what each finds stressful or energizing, plus new stories about people in the grip of their inferior functions, Was That Really Me? helps readers learn from moments of stress.

Excerpt
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Eruptions of Inferior Introverted Sensing


When one or more of the preconditions for eruption of the inferior function are present, Introverted Sensing emerges in its more exaggerated, disruptive form.

Typical Provocations or Triggers


Fatigue and pressure from overcommitment often trigger inferior function reactions in ENTPs and ENFPs. Not surprisingly, given the typical expressions of their type, they mention physical exhaustion as an inferior function trigger more frequently than other types. Often the enthusiasm of Extraverted Intuitive types encourages them to overextend themselves and neglect their physical needs for food and rest.The result may be a physical illness that forces them to stop overdoing things and also may serve as a trigger for an inferior function experience.

An ENFP aptly described this when he said, “I think of myself as a high-stimulus person, and I enjoy having many things on the go at once. My ‘issue’ is knowing where to draw the line between so much to do that it becomes impossible and ‘just enough’ to keep the challenges interesting and attainable.” Both ENFPs and ENTPs mention taking on too much, but ENFPs seem particularly distressed by this tendency, often attributing it to their poor time management. Said one ENFP,“Too often, it is me not allowing enough time to finish a task or not leaving early enough to be on time.”

An important and frequent trigger for inferior Introverted Sensing is having to deal with a lot of details or attend to practical matters for long periods with no breaks. This is an especially effective provocation if the Extraverted Intuitive type’s efforts meet with failure. Dealing with bureaucratic red tape can be particularly noxious for Extraverted Intuitive types, who are likely to dig in their heels and refuse to capitulate to “ridiculous rules.”

For some ENTPs and ENFPs, violation of important values can constellate a reaction. Explained one ENFP, “It happens when I feel the pain of others who are the victims of someone’s extreme aggressiveness.” An ENTP economist’s severe inferior function reaction was triggered by working on a theoretical model that had negative social implications.

Triggers and Stressors at Work


Not surprisingly, the very opposite of what makes Extraverted Intuitive types excited about work is cited by them as very stressful. One major stressor is dealing with an overwhelming workload. This stressor may be particularly problematic for ENTPs and ENFPs because of their difficulty in distinguishing between the challenge and excitement of multiple demands and a totally unreasonable workload. Other stressors consistently mentioned by both male and female Extraverted Intuitive types include the following: too much structure, routine, rigidity, planning, specifics, being watched, being forced to work alone, staying in the same environment, no change, repetition, being unable to deviate from an agenda, being over-controlled by others, a prescriptive approach. Dealing with details is particularly stressful for female ENTPs and ENFPs. An ENTP woman cited as stressors “doing planning and detail and not having the right equipment, although I can adapt very quickly to crisis situations.” An ENFP woman listed the following: “details, managing my schedule, boundaries, rules, judgmental attitudes, too much paper, problems that don’t go away.”

Lack of stimulation and a constraining atmosphere can quickly cause Extraverted Intuitive types to lose energy and become demotivated at work. An ENTP said that what he finds stressful is “lack of space, routine and mundane activities, people looking over my shoulder, unproductive meetings, unnecessary reports.” Another ENTP added “boundaries, a judgmental atmosphere, constraints, negativity or apathy from others.”An ENFP described as stressful “long hours of work (more than fifty-five per week), a bad organizational climate, having to work for long periods by myself.”

Detailed work, deadlines, and excessive structure can all sap energy for these types, and the longer they operate in such an environment, the more likely it is to take its toll on their productivity and well-being. An ENFP described “spending an extended period of time on systematic, procedural, detail-oriented data and working with chronic, argumentative, antagonistic individuals” as quite debilitating.

In a work situation in which the particular stressors for Extraverted Intuitive types continue over long periods, ENTPs and ENFPs may respond quickly and intensely to the triggers described here.This increases the likelihood that their subsequent demonstrations of “grip” behavior will be frequent and pervasive. When persistent stress causes them to be chronically in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing, they are likely to lose touch with their natural enthusiasm for future possibilities and their trust in their ability to successfully overcome obstacles. They may doggedly focus on minor facts and details and habitually complain about others’ factual and detail errors.

The Form of the Inferior Function


Many young male and female ENTPs and ENFPs report becoming uncharacteristically quiet and reserved when they are out of character and find this in marked contrast to their usual openness and sociability. Like other young Extraverted types, they do not seem to find anything positive in moving to this Introverted approach, but are rather puzzled and surprised by it. “I become very quiet and reserved,” said an ENTP young man, “and I don’t talk to people like I normally do.” An ENFP young woman said, “Sometimes I withdraw from everyone, sit alone for hours, and just think. Let stuff stew in my head alone.” Older Extraverted Intuitive types also do not report much pleasure in being withdrawn, quiet, and reserved, and in losing their natural Extraverted Intuitive qualities. Said an ENFP,“I become very quiet, unsure about my thoughts and expressing them. I think a whole lot.”

As the connection with dominant Intuition diminishes, so do Extraverted Intuitive types’ characteristic enthusiasm, optimism, and energetic approach to life. When their hold on their dominant and auxiliary functions continues to taper off, the qualities of inferior Introverted Sensing manifest in withdrawal and depression, obsessiveness, and a focus on the body. For ENTPs, tertiary Feeling emerges as strong, uncontrollable, and emotional criticism that accompanies the obsessive “facts” that overwhelm them. The tertiary Thinking of ENFPs contributes to their obsessive “facts” the sarcastic, legalistic “logic” that proves others’ failings.

Two qualities of the negative, inferior forms of Introverted Sensing (obsessiveness and a focus on the body) are reflected in Jung’s (1976a) description of the inferior Introverted Sensing of ENTPs and ENFPs:

They take the form of intense projections which are . . . chiefly concerned with quasi-realities, such as sexual suspicions, financial hazards, forebodings of illness, etc. . . . [The Extraverted Intuitive may] fall victim to neurotic compulsions in the form of oversubtle ratiocinations, hair-splitting dialectics, and a compulsive tie to the sensation aroused by the object. . . . But sooner or later the object takes revenge in the form of compulsive hypochondriacal ideas, phobias, and every imaginable kind of absurd bodily sensation. (p. 370)


Withdrawal and Depression


Effective dominant Introverted Sensing types are in their element when they spend time alone in reflection. Processing their stored information is familiar and pleasurable, and they are energized by their Introverted Sensing activities. For ENTPs and ENFPs in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing, the inward focus of energy is unfamiliar and disturbing.The diminution of Extraverted energy results in feelings of sadness and despair.Tertiary Thinking or Feeling may emerge as well. For ENTPs this comes out in a conviction that no one understands them or cares about them; they may become emotional and vulnerable in this state. ENFPs may demonstrate perverse logic and accuse others of not being rational, insisting that logic is the only acceptable criterion for making a decision.

In this condition, one ENTP describes feeling isolated, convinced that no one loves her or ever has. Another reports feeling hollow, turned off, “fixated on a narrow linear trap.”Another ENTP is plagued by an uncharacteristic emotionalism. “When things don’t go well, I resort to emotion to get my point across,” he explained. “There is a sense of feeling numb and frozen with no way out,” said an ENFP.“I have tunnel vision and lose my sense of time.” Another noted that when he is under too much pressure, his verbal skills deteriorate until “I become almost mute.”

Many ENFPs describe turning inward, eventually becoming grumpy and depressed and putting people off. Their Feeling side seems to disappear. One ENFP said,“I realized I had become numb and frozen inside— there was no light, no energy—just a wasteland of a landscape, and I was plodding through it.” Another ENFP described “deep depression and hopelessness.The most extreme unrealistic scenarios become real and factual. I will be broke, I will die of some dread disease, I will lose all respect among professional colleagues.”

Both ENTPs and ENFPs report a loss of enthusiasm and motivation accompanied by low energy. They are prone to an uncharacteristic, uncomfortable pensiveness and are unable to find pleasure in the things they normally enjoy. This may lead to self-neglect and, ultimately, illness. This kind of approach to life is particularly alien to them, for they are usually enthusiastic, fun-loving, and full of energy.

An ENFP said, “There is a lot more going on inside my head. I want to be alone to think and it becomes one-track thinking. Everything else is clouded by this one issue—I can’t stop thinking about it. I lose confidence in myself and doubt myself in every realm of my life.”

One ENFP noted that twice a year, in winter and summer, she regularly experiences ten days to three weeks during which she retreats into herself and broods. Others describe periods of becoming withdrawn, critical, unfriendly, and cold. Isolation can exacerbate this reaction. An ENFP who was forced to spend a lot of time alone while recuperating from a badly broken leg was put on antidepressant medication after a month of increasingly lengthy periods of sobbing and despair.

Obsessiveness


Effective dominant Introverted Sensing types are adept at dealing with many facts and details and at putting their knowledge to practical use. In the psyche of ENTPs and ENFPs in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing, this appears as an obsessive focus on one or two facts or details. This is in marked contrast to their typical perspective, which includes the broadest range of possibilities in the world.

The tunnel vision that accompanies the expression of all the inferior functions is particularly dramatic for ENTPs and ENFPs because they no longer have the Extraverted Intuitive energy necessary to envision a future that differs from their present obsession. All sense of possibilities is eliminated.

An ENTP said that sometimes the details involved in a major project overwhelm her so much that she slips into an obsessive focus on how much time is left to work on the project: “I get it down to minutes and keep repeating the time frame over and over.”

An ENFP said, “I can become compulsive when I begin to bring order into my kitchen or when I’m balancing the bank statement. I’m generally pretty relaxed about order and usually have piles of books and stuff that needs to be returned to file cabinets.” Another ENFP said, “I examine, analyze, question stupid things. I also get overly organized, planning and cleaning things rather than getting to the task appropriately. I work overtime to create organization for myself. I count things (like sides on a piece of furniture) over and over. I remember and get obsessed with facts and details, remember dates, memories of being bombarded with ‘unwanted greatness.’ I have an overwhelming need for all data to make every ‘little’ fact relevant.”

When their Intuition is not working, sensory data become the all encompassing objects of perception for Extraverted Intuitive types. But as their statements indicate, their lack of expertise in this area usually leads to an inappropriate selection of sensory data.And because “the future is now” in a very distorted way, they take the data at hand and project it into a vague, oppressive future.They may focus on a thought, such as “I’m alone now and will always be alone,” rather than the dominant Intuitive type’s more typical response of “I’m alone now; I wonder what interesting things I can find to do, and what exciting people I’ll find in the world.” In this state, the depression and hopelessness described earlier readily occur.

It seems that when inferior Sensing focuses on a single fact, dormant dominant Extraverted Intuition intrudes and generalizes it. Because their Extraverted Intuition is not functioning in its usual well-developed way, ENTPs and ENFPs cannot recognize the fact in question as one possibility among many. No perspective exists for the person beyond the one fact.

Extraverted Intuitive types in this state report being unable to respond to alternatives presented to them by others. The present fact—be it pain, depression, or whatever occupies the central focus at that moment—is projected into forever.

Extraverted Intuitive types report one or more of the following ways of obsessing: being overly picky, getting upset about little things, becoming irritable, escalating small irritations into major issues, getting finicky over unimportant things, being nervous and jumpy with people, and becoming fussy, crabby, short-tempered, and rigid.“I am usually a very happy and relaxed person,” said one ENFP.“Sometimes I want people to just get to the bottom line, and then I want to analyze for them where they went wrong and just get on with it.This is quite out of character for me and I feel bad when I’ve been like this. People tell me that when I’m in my negative mode I become terse and clipped in my interactions with others.

I give orders and delegate in a very autocratic manner.” An ENTP described becoming outraged by minor errors, irritated by detail, intolerant of interruptions and people—“the very things I usually welcome.” Another told of feeling overwhelmed and out of control, being unable to sort out priorities, and thus becoming inflexible.

An ENFP described becoming curt with people, insensitive, literal, logical, and critical, and being especially insensitive and pedantic about language and vocabulary. Other ENFPs report doing obsessive record keeping, organizing data from their checkbooks, making endless lists of things to do, and putting minute details in order. “I become incredibly organized; everything is step by step when I’m under stress. I also act to get things done, not worrying as much about the impact,” said an ENFP.

Many ENFPs report fanatically mowing the lawn or cleaning house and being unable to stop themselves, even though they typically view these activities as relatively unimportant and avoid them. The ISTJ husband of one ENFP reluctantly admitted that he rather liked it when his wife was highly stressed because it was the only time the house ever got thoroughly cleaned! An ENFP described the following reaction as very distressing:

I cannot respond to another’s conversation. I pace, the traffic is loud, the clock is loud, sounds I never noticed before are deafening and very slow. It’s almost as though time is standing still. My usual self is calm, patient, and friendly. I would classify not responding to the conversation of another as exceedingly rude behavior. And I’m generally oblivious to noise.


Another ENFP becomes picky and critical of himself and others. Usually, he sees the bigger picture, is flexible, and allows others to be who they are without trying to control or change their behavior.

On the day before the final examination in a workshop, when anxieties typically run high, a minor typesetting error was discovered in a table of data in the test manual.The instructor commented that there were two or three other errors in the text that would be corrected in the next printing.

One ENFP heatedly stated that he wanted the publisher to prepare a document listing all the typos in the text and to send it to him so he wouldn’t have to buy a new text when the errors were corrected.

Focus on the Body


When effective dominant Introverted Sensing types describe the nuances of their internal sensory experiences, one can marvel at the exquisite, evocative images that emerge. When an Extraverted Intuitive type in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing focuses on inner sensations and internal experiences, it often translates into exaggerated concern about physical “symptoms,” whose diagnostic meaning is always dire and extreme. In the grip of their inferior function, ENTPs and ENFPs frequently over-interpret real or imagined bodily sensations as indicative of illness.

When they are in full command of their dominant and auxiliary functions, these types easily ignore or minimize messages from their bodies. So when they do focus on the body, it is done to the exclusion of everything else and with little experience of what is “normal” for them. A particular symptom can have only one cause, which must be life threatening or incurable: A pulled muscle is taken as a sign of heart disease; indigestion signifies an impending heart attack; and a headache is believed to be a brain tumor. It seems that when their Intuition isn’t working, they react to messages from their bodies rigidly and absolutely.

An ENTP had been in a rare bad mood for several days but was unable to identify any cause. One morning while shaving, he noticed that when he turned his eyes to the left, the white in his right eye crinkled.He had never noticed that before and was terrified that something was terribly wrong with his eyes. Before making an appointment with an eye doctor, however, he decided to observe other people’s eyes to determine just how bad his were.To his relief (and chagrin), he found that everyone’s eyes moved the same way his did. He had simply never bothered to look at eyes—his own or other people’s—at all closely before.

An ENFP fell and injured a small bone in her back, which she could feel as a bump. She asked a friend, who was a nurse, what the bump could be and was told that it was probably a cyst. She quickly translated the cyst into cancer and imagined herself on Medicaid dying alone in a squalid hospital ward. In fact, all that was necessary was a visit to a chiropractor to have the bone put back in place.

During a particularly stressful time, another ENFP woman insisted that her husband have an otherwise innocent-appearing wart removed because she feared it was malignant.An ENFP man reported that in times of great stress he becomes obsessed with illness. Once, when he had a routine liver function test, he became convinced he was dying of liver cancer before the test was even performed. Another ENFP told of owning a blood pressure cuff he rarely uses—except when he becomes very stressed, at which times he takes his blood pressure three times a day.

One ENTP described taking any fact and blowing it out of proportion—for example, imagining an illness in his child as a fatal disease. Others report having a low pain threshold, fearing the dentist, and reacting to stress with a number of somatic symptoms. In fact, though physical symptoms as an expression of stress are common across types, it may be possible that “somaticizing” is more prevalent among Extraverted Intuitive types. One ENTP had digestive problems for fifteen years. During a period of extreme stress, he developed a life-threatening bleeding ulcer. An ENFP and an ENTP discovered in a discussion that they both have medical conditions that force them to attend to their bodies—something they did not do prior to having the conditions. As a result, they more readily attend to their other physical needs as well.

There is an interesting contrast between the imagined negative outcomes of minor bodily symptoms reported by Extraverted Intuitive types and the catastrophizing that is an expression of the inferior Extraverted Intuition of Introverted Sensing types. Although there is some seeming similarity, the processes through which the two negative expressions occur are actually quite different. For Introverted Sensing types, the future is always somewhat suspect, so stress encourages them to imagine and anticipate a future filled with negative outcomes. Extraverted Intuitive types, in contrast, are typically optimistic and welcoming of future possibilities. But when they get stuck on a present fact or situation, they lose sight of the future, imagining it as an endless repetition of the negative situation that is occurring right now.

One way in which Extraverted Intuitive types may try to return to being themselves when chronically stressed is to vacillate between the extremes of frenetic Extraverted and Introverted Sensing. Because both extremes are likely to be exaggerated and undisciplined, little of substance is accomplished in either state. When they finally succumb to negative Introverted Sensing, it may take the form of moderate to severe depression and a sense of hopelessness about the future. One ENFP said, “I get in a downward spiral. One time I went into a stress-induced depression. I almost left my job and made it back through therapy.”

Perhaps because ENTPs and ENFPs thrive on the threshold of chronic stress, they seem to have a high tolerance for situations that might prove debilitating for many other types. ENTPs in particular report very few sources of stress in their lives, and both types report a low incidence of heart disease and hypertension, ENTPs having the lowest incidence of all the types. This is in marked contrast to their opposite types, ISTJs and ISFJs.

Extraverted Intuitive types are likely to leave work situations in which conditions become intolerable, but usually not because they are overloaded or forced to work very hard. Rather, such conditions as working with incompetent people (especially for ENTPs) or being forced to adhere to unacceptable work values (especially for ENFPs) are likely to trigger quitting the noxious situation. Sometimes becoming ill or depressed and recognizing how different they have become can force these types to take action. Some of the flavor of what constitutes a noxious work setting is captured in this statement by an ENTP who said that stress was a very important factor in quitting her job:“I reacted by leaving an organization and becoming an independent consultant. I can select the work I want and the people I work with. I can arrange my own schedule.There are no stupid rules and regulations. I enjoy helping organizations function better, but I don’t want to be part of one.” She had earlier described the most stressful work demands of her previous job as “working with incompetent people, not having control of my own schedule and activities, and running up against a lot of stupid rules and regulations.”

Lengthy Episodes in the Grip


The types of episodes described above are experienced by ENTPs and ENFPs as temporary states during which they are vulnerable to the three forms in which their inferior function is expressed. However, when Extraverted Intuitive types are chronically in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing, inferior function behavior may become habitual. Little of their typical enthusiasm, open-minded acceptance of new ideas, and uncanny visioning of future trends will be seen. Instead, they will be irritable, critical of everyone around them, and obsessed with minutia.They are likely to find fault with everything and everyone, especially close family members and co-workers. If their obsessiveness involves a focus on imagined illness, they may be unable to shake their conviction that they are seriously ill, despite medical reassurances. Depression may result from this or simply as a consequence of their unnatural focus on negative realities in the present.

Chronic grip behavior may lead the individual and others to believe that he or she is typically irritable, impatient, and cranky, vacillating between withdrawal and frenetic activity. Since the process of becoming chronically in the grip is often gradual, even people who have known the person in a nonstressed state are likely not to notice what, in retrospect will be recognized as a radical alteration of personality. The person will appear to be a rather exaggerated, poorly developed Introverted Sensing type.

However, there are also occasions when a lengthy time in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing can stimulate new awareness and positive growth toward completion and individuation. Remember that Jung saw the inferior function as the doorway to the unconscious and an important part of the self-regulating capacity of our psyches.

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Sloth
11-25-2014, 12:17 AM
Interesting read, thanks for sharing!




Another ENTP is plagued by an uncharacteristic emotionalism. “When things don’t go well, I resort to emotion to get my point across,” he explained. “There is a sense of feeling numb and frozen with no way out,” said an ENFP.“I have tunnel vision and lose my sense of time.” Another noted that when he is under too much pressure, his verbal skills deteriorate until “I become almost mute.”

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When effective dominant Introverted Sensing types describe the nuances of their internal sensory experiences, one can marvel at the exquisite, evocative images that emerge. When an Extraverted Intuitive type in the grip of inferior Introverted Sensing focuses on inner sensations and internal experiences, it often translates into exaggerated concern about physical “symptoms,” whose diagnostic meaning is always dire and extreme. In the grip of their inferior function, ENTPs and ENFPs frequently over-interpret real or imagined bodily sensations as indicative of illness.

I'm not entirely sure these are things that I do. I really don't ever resort to appealing to emotions, and I've never really been a hypocondriac (though there's been a couple of times throughout my life that I've over-reacted to certain physical ailments, but usually I do the opposite and let things go on too long without getting checked out or researching them). I would be interested in reading the bit about how the inferior Fe comes out, I'll google around a bit.

I do kinda thrive on constant stress though, also a reason I picked my career. I actually feel weakened when I'm not constantly busy, and I dwell on really small and stupid things (example is about 2 months ago I was posting a string of obnoxious posts about how irritating the attention I was getting from men was (though some instances I think were hilarious, unbelievable, and worth sharing... I think I went a little over board at times) I noticed that when my work flow picked up again I started to slip back into more thoughtful threads and engaging deeper levels of thought. I have an excess of energy that I don't realize I have until I'm using it (I feel tired and low energy, but my actions seem to be saying different I'm beginning to think).

Sloth
11-25-2014, 04:10 AM
I just caught myself in 2 different chat rooms, while playing a multi-player game on my phone and editing my website when all 3 of those had a lull.

....I'm seriously considering changing my profile to say ENTP.

*takes deep breaths*

Hermione
11-25-2014, 04:23 AM
My guess is you are Intp, you enjoy the challenge of going out and experiencing new stuff as you do get bored and need new intake of data and excitement. (We are human after all). You need new things to think about, too. It's a normal thing for us actually. The multi-tasking you were just doing is not only a very normal modern cultural thing, but it is also something I enjoy as my mind can run several threads at a time, especially when I finally get to actually choose my own threads.. games, reading, listening, watching, etc. It de-stresses me after concentrating all day on all the other stuff I actually have to do for work, school, or mundane details of life. Anyway, you don't sound any different to the rest of us really. I think switching off from strengths to weaknesses, or different personality preferences is sort of a desire to find out stuff I don't know about, too. It makes for looking like a chameleon which is in keeping with Intp. Just sayin' my 2 cents.

OrionzRevenge
11-25-2014, 04:32 AM
I went back and put that long excerpt in a spoiler tag to de-clutter your thread.

I guess the Introverted-Extroverted dichotomy is an easy place to gnaw at the bones. At least for me.
Crowds of strangers or distant peoples truly & utterly drain me, and I only re-charge in solitude or very agreeable small circles.

EDIT:
D'oh
I meant to add that issues such a Mania or whatnot can cloud the issue at times.

Sappho
11-25-2014, 10:04 AM
Not sure if it helps, but feeling like an extrovert when in company might merely stem from your acquaintance being more introverted than you. I think many INTPs will be drawn to more introverted INTJs, INFJs etc. because they're the only ones that actively tolerate our detailed and meticulous gabbing on whatever special field it is that interests us.

There is another theory suggesting that certain combinations stimulate activity in one of the parties. INTPs are supposedly stimulated by ISFJs. I've only met one of those in my life (prior to knowing of that theory) and must say that I've probably never been more outgoing than during the time I knew that person. There was just such agitating dullness about her that I constantly felt the violent need to drag her out and about town whenever I saw that woman. In her company, I talked to strangers as if it were nothing, and generally even enjoyed it (which eventually caused that rudimentary friendship's decay).

Architect
11-25-2014, 12:43 PM
Ambiversion doesn't exist. What is confusing you is that you have a type (probably based in the cortex) which is unlearning and unreasoning. It's like the sunlight at the back of your psyche providing motivation for everything you do. Your personality is probably in your neocortex which is a learning and changing thing. It's who you've developed into after the lifetime you've lived so far, and reflects your experiences and the people around you. From this you can see that there can be people who have a type of X, but a personality of Y, where Y is more conducive to another type. This is common with introverts, who are taught not to be introverted. But their type is still the same.

Regardless, Adam Savage is very likely an ENTP, you could use him as a public example of one.

Thoth
11-25-2014, 05:44 PM
Merely an observation; most extroverted people I know would never wonder if they're actually introverted, but I know plenty of introverted people who make conscious effort to be what is ostensibly considered extroverted. Fact is not every flavor of introvert wants to live in a solitary cave, many seek peer groups with which to share ideas, they just don't shotgun social scenarios or socialize willy-nilly.

OrionzRevenge
11-25-2014, 06:31 PM
Merely an observation; most extroverted people I know would never wonder if they're actually introverted, but I know plenty of introverted people who make conscious effort to be what is ostensibly considered extroverted. Fact is not every flavor of introvert wants to live in a solitary cave, many seek peer groups with which to share ideas, they just don't shotgun social scenarios or socialize willy-nilly.

Yep, and being in "in your 20s" indicates that you have spent most of your life thus far (K through College) where the norm is to be around lots of people.

Sloth
12-03-2014, 08:20 AM
Merely an observation; most extroverted people I know would never wonder if they're actually introverted, but I know plenty of introverted people who make conscious effort to be what is ostensibly considered extroverted.

Wow that is so incredibly true.

After reflecting on this for a few more days (and paying even more attention to my behavior) there's no way that I'm NOT an introverted NTP. I went to a thanksgiving party (parties aren't always draining, but can be depending on the crowd) I was incredibly drained over the next couple days, so much so that I hardly left my apartment. I really needed to recharge from that. My extrovert friends would never understand this.

It's true Sappho, I tend to have more introvert friends than extrovert friends. I definitely like that they let me rant... and rant... and rant... about all kinds of crazy crap that most people find boring.

I enjoy interacting with other people because it's stimulating, and it's fun to bounce ideas off another perspective. I don't run on it though, I've realized. I could sit and talk to a wall (and have) and will be just about as satisfied.

Glad I figured that one out. Sloth's an INTP after all friends!