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Linnea
12-17-2015, 04:05 PM
This thread is for working INTP hacks. Preferably ones that can be summed up in one sentence and perhaps then made into tasteful, inspirational and useful artwork that INTPs can hang on their walls in a self-improvement fit and then forget about.

Have you figured out a clever workaround to an INTP problem?
Do you manage to be a somewhat useful member of society in a way that makes you happy? If you don't want to be a happy member of any society, you can share tips on that too if it's working for you.
Do you know the magic formula for office socialising so that you can get your work done and your coworkers don't actually hate you?
Have you figured out how to remember to turn on the stove when you are cooking so that you don't realise half an hour later that the potatoes you were planning to eat are actually still uncooked*?

*and yes I'm writing this while waiting for my potatoes to finally cook <_<

Faust
12-17-2015, 04:45 PM
If you don't want to be a happy member of any society, you can share tips on that too if it's working for you.

The first step is to be a member of society.

OrionzRevenge
12-17-2015, 05:35 PM
If you have to, refer to it as 'Meditation' in order to be given polite pardon, to recharge, from the social slime.
/themoreyouknow

Linnea
12-17-2015, 06:09 PM
If you have to, refer to it as 'Meditation' in order to be given polite pardon, to recharge, from the social slime.
/themoreyouknow

"I can't see you now, I'm doing a meditation retreat that lasts a month. It's very strict, I'm breaking the rules even to tell you this." It's sad that I know that this would be a more acceptable reason to some people than saying I really really need a month of quiet time, please let me get back to you later :(

Spartan26
12-17-2015, 07:35 PM
"I have to get up early" - any time you want out of a social situation.

Madrigal
12-17-2015, 07:40 PM
Huh, I don't really feel the need to provide an excuse anymore. I just say I'm not in the mood to go out. It's not like anyone would be shocked to hear that.

Sistamatic
12-18-2015, 12:07 AM
1. Have you figured out a clever workaround to an INTP problem?
2. Do you manage to be a somewhat useful member of society in a way that makes you happy? If you don't want to be a happy member of any society, you can share tips on that too if it's working for you.
3. Do you know the magic formula for office socialising so that you can get your work done and your coworkers don't actually hate you?
4. Have you figured out how to remember to turn on the stove when you are cooking so that you don't realise half an hour later that the potatoes you were planning to eat are actually still uncooked*?



1. Almost have, like thousands of times, but then my INTP brain finds a clever workaround for the workaround. It's like I'm having a superfight with myself every minute of every day.
2. Not yet...working on it. I have managed one or the other many times, but simultaneity eludes me.
3. Work from home. Cannot accomplish anything in office filled with people. Just can't. It is impossible. I require momentum. Momentum resets to zero with every human interaction. Humans feel instinctive need to interact for no apparent reason every time they see me.
4. Smartwatch with timer thingy that buzzes at my wrist. I've put the timer Icon on the smartwatch homepage so it is easy to start it. Success rate varies depending on whether I immediately respond or if I delude myself into thinking I'll remember to respond a couple of minutes after I turn it off. Use of smartwatch timer thingy reduces time required to do 4 loads of laundry from 5 days to 4 hours...if I remember to use it.

flurps
12-18-2015, 04:11 AM
"I have to get up early" - any time you want out of a social situation.

But what if you have to get up early for work, and your social situation is at work.

Spartan26
12-18-2015, 07:02 AM
But what if you have to get up early for work, and your social situation is at work.

Then it's perfect unless they know you don't have to be there until 11:30. Seriously, in that case, you really don't need an excuse. "See you losers in...five hours" It may be 12 hours but they'll still get the picture.

I have a hard time getting motivated to clean, unless I'm supposed to be doing something else, then I'll do it to procrastinate from what I should be doing, but I found inviting people over will send me in a panic the night before and I'll get stuff cleaned.

Phreon
02-25-2016, 05:01 AM
Get a motorcycle. It changes your life.

On a desolate country road, you can introvert and extrovert at the same time.

Hephaestus
02-25-2016, 06:07 AM
They make automated pressure cookers. You can cook up a couple cups of rice in minutes, 12 hours from now.

Currently, I only have a rice cooker with the delayed start feature, but it's really nice to be able to set up tomorrow's dinner tonight.

TeresaJ
02-25-2016, 08:39 AM
Smile, make eye contact, and repeat pertinent informant out loud ("hi bob, nice to meet you!"). Try to remember names and any pertinent facts as if you're studying for a test. Make notes if necessary. (i seriously made a note one time that was like "ask Brigitte about her father's surgery following staff meeting.") Don't be afraid to politely ask someone to remind you of their name.

Over time this will become a habit and require almost no extra effort.

Most importantly, however, always be busy or at least appear busy (good for warding off coworkers as well as bosses), never initiate conversation outside of daily "how are you this morning" or follow ups to major life events, and try to never disclose too much information about yourself. Do your own work well and never say anything about the amount of time your coworkers spend socializing instead of working ( not that INTPs have any tendency toward the latter because as long as it doesn't affect you who cares).

In general I've found that this method gives me the reputation of being polite and genuinely friendly but also serious and shy. People are nice to me but don't try to involve me in conversation. It helps that I work in a genuinely functional workplace where everyone pretty much feels good about their job and all the extroverts have plenty of opportunity to gab amongst themselves.

Penguinhunter
02-25-2016, 09:20 AM
Do you know the magic formula for office socialising so that you can get your work done and your coworkers don't actually hate you?

Haven't you guys heard? Jobs are for suckers!

jojo38
09-22-2016, 07:37 PM
This thread is for working INTP hacks. Preferably ones that can be summed up in one sentence and perhaps then made into tasteful, inspirational and useful artwork that INTPs can hang on their walls in a self-improvement fit and then forget about.

Have you figured out a clever workaround to an INTP problem?
Do you manage to be a somewhat useful member of society in a way that makes you happy? If you don't want to be a happy member of any society, you can share tips on that too if it's working for you.
Do you know the magic formula for office socialising so that you can get your work done and your coworkers don't actually hate you?
Have you figured out how to remember to turn on the stove when you are cooking so that you don't realise half an hour later that the potatoes you were planning to eat are actually still uncooked*?

*and yes I'm writing this while waiting for my potatoes to finally cook <_<

Automate everything that can be automated and have your phone remind you when to do things. If there isn't a program to meet your needs, make one. But make sure it manages the boring details of your life.
Be really good at what you do so that your coworkers overlook your inability to actually complete anything. Say nice things to them so they will like you. Eat takeout.

I have been known to go to another room to get something 4 or 5 times before actually succeeding.

Hephaestus
09-22-2016, 09:08 PM
If called by someone trying to sell you insurance, just tell them you don't have whatever they want you to insure.


"I can probably save you money on your car insurance, do you have a few moments?"

"I don't have a car."

<click>

"Can I talk to you about homeowners insurance?"

"I'm homeless."

<click>

"Life insurance is an important part of estate planning."

"I have no family."

<click>


Another handy method applies to people collecting for charities.

"I'm calling on behalf of the Policeman's Ball, how are you today?"

"Bereaved."


If they aren't scum, they will probably feel bad for troubling you. If they continue on, feel free to entertain yourself at their expense.

TeresaJ
09-22-2016, 09:53 PM
^Yes! With spam calls of any sort whatsover lately I just say "I'm not interested, thank you!" in my friendliest voice and then hang up on whatever they say in reply. No confrontation, no conflict, no flood of stress hormones, no guilt over the plight of the schmuck in the call center, and the call is already over.

ACow
09-23-2016, 08:21 AM
It's a micro optimisation, but I assure you, once you've established that someone is a salesperson, you need to train yourself to hang up (physically or on the phone) without responding or giving them a reason.

Sure, it might feel rude at first, but they're the rude ones. You'll literally gain seconds back in your day.

The only way I can think of something better is if you stay on the line but try to convince them to kill themselves...think of it like your own charity/public service instead of what the chuggers are trying to push on you...

Hephaestus
09-23-2016, 08:25 AM
It's a micro optimisation, but I assure you, once you've established that someone is a salesperson, you need to train yourself to hang up (physically or on the phone) without responding or giving them a reason.

Sure, it might feel rude at first, but they're the rude ones. You'll literally gain seconds back in your day.

The only way I can think of something better is if you stay on the line but try to convince them to kill themselves...think of it like your own charity/public service instead of what the chuggers are trying to push on you...

That's the beauty of my tactic with insurance cold calls. They hang up in frustration on me. It turns my annoyance into laughter.

LordLatch
09-23-2016, 08:49 AM
At fairs and carnivals, the game folk try to get me to win a useless prize for the lady. I point at them and look right at them and say, "That doesn't work on me!" Or just plain, "No!"

They always smile and my chic thinks I'm manly.

amethystace
09-24-2016, 09:25 PM
To avoid paying outrageous costs of living:
buy a plot of land for 10k. In a county with low property taxes.
Put a small rv on it.
Get an electrician to install 'temporary power.'
Get internet installed.
Build a shed.
Put plumbing in the shed for a washer and dryer.

To avoid car insurance without having to ride motorcycles:

Get a motorcycle endorsement
Buy a scooter.

And now you can live on full time min wage comfortably until that fateful day you find someone intelligent to actually talk to.

At work:
Just ask nicely to people to do things, explain why, say 'you don't have to if you're busy.' Ok no one hates you now.

ACow
09-25-2016, 12:57 AM
And now you can live on full time min wage comfortably until that fateful day you find someone intelligent to actually talk to.

And you've already taken extra precautions against that ever happening by moving into the middle of buttfuck nowhere :P

TeresaJ
09-25-2016, 02:35 AM
And you've already taken extra precautions against that ever happening by moving into the middle of buttfuck nowhere :P

Master level INTP.

amethystace
09-25-2016, 07:55 AM
And you've already taken extra precautions against that ever happening by moving into the middle of buttfuck nowhere :P

I live in a populated area of a low population state (lol this state only has 7 million people living in it and most are on the pacific coast) soooo nope not that. I do want to live in the middle of nowhere but how would I, it costs too much.