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    Freedom fighters taste victory. Inspiring bravery. But the empire ruthlessly strikes back. Sad.

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    Adventures in Marxism (Marshall Berman)

    When Marx calls the bad communists “thoughtless,” he is suggesting not just that their ideas are stupid, but that they are unconscious of what their real motives are; they think they are performing noble actions, but they are really engaged in vindictive, neurotic acting-out. Marx’s analysis here is stretching toward Nietzsche and Freud. But it also highlights his roots in the Enlightenment: the communism he wants must include self awareness. This nightmare vision of “crude, thoughtless communism” is one of the strongest things in early Marx.
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    Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrigal View Post
    Adventures in Marxism (Marshall Berman) When Marx calls the bad communists “thoughtless,” he is suggesting not just that their ideas are stupid, but that they are unconscious of what their real motives are; they think they are performing noble actions, but they are really engaged in vindictive, neurotic acting-out. Marx’s analysis here is stretching toward Nietzsche and Freud. But it also highlights his roots in the Enlightenment: the communism he wants must include self awareness. This nightmare vision of “crude, thoughtless communism” is one of the strongest things in early Marx.
    how much of the left in the US today are bad communists acting out of vindictiveness?

    also when the commies slaughtered 1.7 million russians after the october revolution and then a further 60 million over the ensuing decades do you think that they unleashed a whirlwind of vindictiveness?

    why would it be different today if repeated?

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    Blame and resentment of others are inherent with belief in an oppressed vs oppressor ideology. Unsurprisingly, such an ideology is also fertile ground for vindictiveness.
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    This article is so good and made me realize I've heard a lot of stories like this over the years.

    I Came of Age During the 2008 Financial Crisis. I’m Still Angry About It.
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    I've been researching the Pension crisis in the UK.

    Anybody under 30 isn't expected to retire until 70-72.
    And when we do retire, our pensions will be worth around 3,000 per year. (That'll last about 2 months, lolol)

    And that's not even set in stone. The pension funds could be worth NOTHING.

    So yeah, I'm angry about coming of age in the financial crisis too.

    Britain is going nto collapse.
    Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.

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