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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionzRevenge View Post
    This gripes me greatly when I always read/hear that he was to pathetically ADHD to focus his gift for slapping pigments on walls and shit for some rich clients.

    Leonardo was ALWAYS about learning how to paint super-ultra-realistic, and he never gave a rats-ass about doing, but knowing how to do it.

    Sound familiar?

    This is why he never kept his commitment to provide The Mona Lisa to the client.
    This is why he applied manifold thin washes of pigment to her face to perfectly emulate skin.

    /2 cents

    I agree that INTP traits don't necessarily imply ADHD (and that ADHD is likely a made-up diagnosis for Doctors to peddle crack to children). That the tendencies for very visual-spatial thinkers is that of noticing details where others do not; often getting lost in the desire to understand things in full, and never satisfied unless that idea passes through complete understanding of all the possibilities. The ability to distinguish that something believed to be a truth and realizing other possibilities, is a rare trait.

    My actual belief of Leonardo's creation of the Mona Lisa may have been that he wishes he was a woman. This might explain why he took it with him wherever he went, because he found an obsession/discontentedness in the society, as being a man. Either that or his symbolist nature found an abstract intrigue with an androgyny in the human form, and that he was compelled to examine the "meaning" of such identity. It does appear in some way that the "love" aspect for certain people belies differences of their own appearance and divergence of interest; that many people almost seem to want to fuck their mirror image, and perhaps he really did have a love interest of sorts that resembled himself in some ways. Either way it does have a strange resemblence to himself.

    An interesting claim of his ancestry was that he might have been part Arab. Though I bet Italy was a somewhat diverse culture, he probably felt out of touch for numerous reasons. It could well be he conceived of a fictitious woman he could relate to, and she just so happened to have a similar "resemblence/familiarity" to himself.

    Regarding Leonardo as a Humanist; he was certainly capable of imagining the capability for mankind to exhibit atrocities of the most extreme degree, and no doubt after having been keen to examine these factors, lead to many decisions for himself. That he worked with many despots to conceive of concepts for war, he may have realized the duality of war and that by conceiving mass destructive methods, could also keep war in check. Given that greater efficiency doesn't always lead to less of something, and often leads to greater extremes, he might have doubted the ways mankind would use such tools. This also corresponds to the idea that Sun Tzu was a humanist and wanted to abolish war through implementing greater resolve of such destructive practices.

    Nevertheless he has on occasion been known to innovate against his best judgement namely in designing a method for transporting dishes from court gatherings, that resulted in numerous dishware being destroyed, as well as experimental pigments that quickly deteriorated within his own lifetime (I think that was what happened to the Battle of Anghiari and why it was painted over (though possibly not destroyed).
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    ^^^I wouldn't be surprised to learn 'Cathrina's' blood was imported. Italy was basically the funnel for trade from the east & south.

    Leonardo's longest employ was at the court of the Duke of Milan: Ludovico Sforza. He was rather dark complected and too rather enjoyed the nickname Il Moro or "The Moor", due to the fearsome reputation of said group.

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    William Shakespeare: Study sheds light on Bard as food hoarder

    He was using food as currency and taking advantage of the market. I found it interesting that his play, 'Coriolanus,' he seemed to claim that the food supply was rigged for profitability; and that he wasn't the real criminal despite selling the food when the market was inflated. In actuality he was only acknowledging what it was and figured just the same.

    Shakespeare 'may have been a humble schoolmaster'

    I was looking into the Wriothesley connection and the disputed authorship. People claim either Wriothesley or Francis Bacon were illegitimate children of Queen Elizabeth, as well as the actual playwright authorship, which I've seriously doubt. It seems that the authorship debate really started during the 19th century when people (in this case aristocracy) always doubted the capabilities of people that came from humble origins.

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    This is an affront to the beliefs people avow for. If anything religion has and always will be, a conduit for control via the human ego. The human ego will always be the cause of downfall for society and I suspect, for a long time that the entrenched and narcissistic upbringing people may become accustomed to are projections of narcissistic manifestation imbued, vicariously through group identity; will only ensure the fetid confines of ego-enslavement for generations to come. The permissiveness and overt presentation of concealed ego-manifestation lives on vicariously through the identity crisis inherent to such disequilibrium.
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    Harvard discovers three of its library books are bound in human flesh

    As it turns out, the practice of using human skin to bind books was actually pretty popular during the 17th century. It's referred to as Anthropodermic bibliopegy and proved pretty common when it came to anatomical textbooks. Medical professionals would often use the flesh of cadavers they'd dissected during their research. Waste not, want not, I suppose.
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    No history, no exposition, no anecdote or argument changes the invariant: we are all human beings, and some humans are idiots.

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    One of my colleagues tried to make a bibliography on human-leather bound books last year. Some of the libraries that she knew held them in their collection would completely deny it when she called. Maybe the amount of attention this has gotten will encourage more libraries to feature the more morbid aspects of their special collection.

    I love the idea of working in special collections, but I wouldn't want the job of oiling human leather.

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    The Art of Political Lying

    The Fourth Chapter is wholly employed in this question, Whether the Right of Coinage of political lyes be wholly in the Government. The Author, who is a true Friend to English Liberty, determines in the Negative, and answers all the Arguments of the opposite Party with great Acuteness: that, as the government of England has a mixture of Democratical in it, so the Right of Inventing and Spreading Political Lyes is partly in the People; and their obstinate Adherence to this just Privilege has been most conspicuous, and shin'd with great Lustre of late Years: That it happens very often, that there are no other Means left to the good People of England to pull down a Ministry and Government they are weary of, but by exercising this their undoubted Right: that Abundance of Political Lying is a sure sign of true English Liberty: that as ministers do sometimes use Tools to support their Power, it is but reasonable that the People should employ the same Weapon to defend themselves, and pull them down.
    Die Logik ist keine Lehre, sondern ein Spiegelbild der Welt. Die Logik ist transcendental. - Wittgenstein

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    "LEICA AND THE JEWS

    LEICA AND THE JEWS
    The Leica is the pioneer 35mm camera. It is a German product - precise, minimalist, and utterly efficient.

    Behind its worldwide acceptance as a creative tool was a family-owned, socially oriented firm that, during the Nazi era, acted with uncommon grace, generosity and modesty. E. Leitz Inc., designer and manufacturer of Germany 's most famous photographic product, saved its Jews.

    And Ernst Leitz II, the steely-eyed Protestant patriarch who headed theclosely held firm as the Holocaust loomed across Europe , acted in such a way as to earn the title, "the photography industry's Schindler."

    As soon as Adolf Hitler was named chancellor of Germany in 1933, Ernst Leitz II began receiving frantic calls from Jewish associates, asking for his help in getting them and their families out of the country. As Christians, Leitz and his family were immune to Nazi Germany 's Nuremberg laws, which restricted the movement of Jews and limited theirprofessional activities.

    To help his Jewish workers and colleagues, Leitz quietly established what has become known among historians of the Holocaust as "the Leica Freedom Train," a covert means of allowing Jews to leave Germany in the guise of Leitz employees being assigned overseas.

    Employees, retailers, family members, even friends of family members were "assigned" to Leitz sales offices in France, Britain, Hong Kong and the United States, Leitz's activities intensified after the Kristallnacht of November 1938, during which synagogues and Jewish shopswere burned across Germany ..
    Before long, German "employees" were disembarking from the ocean liner Bremen at a New York pier and making their way to the Manhattan office of Leitz Inc., where executives quickly found them jobs in thephotographic industry.
    Each new arrival had around his or her neck the symbol of freedom - a new Leica camera.

    The refugees were paid a stipend until they could find work. Out of this migration came designers, repair technicians, salespeople, marketers and writers for the photographic press.

    Keeping the story quiet The "Leica Freedom Train" was at its height in 1938 and early 1939,delivering groups of refugees to New York every few weeks. Then, with the invasion of Poland on Sept. 1, 1939, Germany closed its borders.
    By that time, hundreds of endangered Jews had escaped to America , thanks to the Leitzes' efforts. How did Ernst Leitz II and his staff get away with it?

    Leitz, Inc. was an internationally recognized brand that reflected
    credit on the newly resurgent Reich. The company produced cameras, rangefinders and other optical systems for the German military. Also, the Nazi government desperately needed hard currency from abroad, and Leitz's single biggest market for optical goods was the United States .

    Even so, members of the Leitz family and firm suffered for their good works. A top executive, Alfred Turk, was jailed for working to help Jews and freed only after the payment of a large bribe.

    Leitz's daughter, Elsie Kuhn-Leitz, was imprisoned by the Gestapo after she was caught at the border, helping Jewish women cross into Switzerland . She eventually was freed but endured rough treatment in the course of questioning. She also fell under suspicion when she attempted to improve the living conditions of 700 to 800 Ukrainian slave laborers, all of them women, who had been assigned to work in the plant during the 1940s.

    (After the war, Kuhn-Leitz received numerous honors for her humanitarian efforts, among them the Officier d'honneur des Palms Academic from France in 1965 and the Aristide Briand Medal from the European Academy in the 1970s.)
    Why has no one told this story until now? According to the late Norman Lipton, a freelance writer and editor, the Leitz family wanted no publicity for its heroic efforts. Only after the last member of the Leitz family was dead did the "Leica Freedom Train" finally come to light.

    It is now the subject of a book, "The Greatest Invention of the Leitz Family: The Leica Freedom Train," by Frank Dabba Smith, a California-born Rabbi currently living in England.

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    Fragmented history


    I still think Christianity should consist of all the religions joining together in the middle. . .

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