Vampaliens II: Space Mafia (Pt. 3)

**Kyuri** · 11-09-2014, 05:36 AM

The second Night has now ended. Dot was killed. She was a Vanilla Townie.

Live list:

Dirac
Dot Vanilla Townie
LowIQLogan
Slab_Bulkhead Innocent Child
Utisz
Osito Polar Vanilla Townie
Light Leak
lethe
Hephaestus
Dr. Ahcir
Noir
Polemarch
Granny Smith Mafia Goon
P-O
tele

Day 3 begins now!

Again, things you might want to keep in mind:

I will only count bolded votes made in this thread (and other Day threads I create)
Vote is plurality. You can change your vote at any time during the Day.
The Day ends exactly 48 hours from the time of this post regardless of whether I have announced it. After that no changes to your vote will count.
Nights will last 12 hours or until I have received all Night actions.
I consider any role from this list fair game.

Do not quote my PMs verbatim or use its wording to prove towniness.
As I've said before, once dead, players should not influence the game.

**P-O** · 11-09-2014, 07:30 AM

Vampires must be destroyed. Polemarch's soul must be purged of evil.

**jigglypuff** · 11-09-2014, 07:37 AM

^ what are your reasons?

**Polemarch** · 11-09-2014, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by P-O

Vampires must be destroyed. Polemarch's soul must be purged of evil.

Why me? Seems extremely arbitrary. I'm tired of being suspected just for being suspicious - happens to me every game.

I made a good case for Utisz last round, and it's even stronger now. That's twice in a row he's been on the wrong side of a vote. The first time, he argued in defense of someone who wound up being Mafia. Second time, he argued in favor of me, basically just to save himself from death, and once the tide shifted to Osito, he claimed to have more substantial reasons for choosing him, other than just self-preservation. Once again, he was on the wrong side of a vote.

Does he just get away with this the whole game? Stop overthinking this.

**P-O** · 11-09-2014, 08:14 AM

I guess you're right. It's pretty arbitrary. You were a contentious figure last round so I thought you might be a good place to start. But i'm honestly not feeling strong about anybody inparticular.

Your right about what Usitz did except that his "last minute reasons" for choosing osito were solid (IMO) and, equally importantly, self preservation is a good enough reason on its own.
I'm giving usitz the benefit of the doubt right now because he introduced what was a potentially a powerful weapon for the townies. Using slab's position the way we did was a good idea that a mafia would have been wise to keep quiet about.
Can he still be a mafia? Yes. It's just that this fact lends him a degree of credibility that other townies don't have in my eyes.

I might be better going with an old favorite. Dr. Ahcir. Who's either so disingenuous or so easily manipulated that I got him to vote to lynch himself on the first day... and where he felt the need to explain why he wasn't voting for himself when he changed his vote.

**jigglypuff** · 11-09-2014, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Polemarch

Why me? Seems extremely arbitrary. I'm tired of being suspected just for being suspicious - happens to me every game.

I made a good case for Utisz last round, and it's even stronger now. That's twice in a row he's been on the wrong side of a vote. The first time, he argued in defense of someone who wound up being Mafia. Second time, he argued in favor of me, basically just to save himself from death, and once the tide shifted to Osito, he claimed to have more substantial reasons for choosing him, other than just self-preservation. Once again, he was on the wrong side of a vote.

Does he just get away with this the whole game? Stop overthinking this.

tbh i wanna vote him too cuz, along with the weird voting, he was arguing for full transparency in the beginning before he suggested the PM thing. it suggests he doesn't believe what he says.

**lethe** · 11-09-2014, 08:32 AM

I'm going full P-O this round

**Noir** · 11-09-2014, 09:08 AM

I want to sleep, and then possibly carry on in the morning. Also I am sorta drunk. Sorry Dot. = (

**Utisz** · 11-09-2014, 02:54 PM

I'm trying to figure out what we just learned (if anything).

We now know Dot was townie (RIP) and Osito was townie (RIP).

We're also pretty sure we know who Dot PM'ed.

And it seems likely that Dot knew who the Cop was and sacrificed herself for the Cop.

If the Mafia knew who the real Cop was, they wouldn't know if the Cop was in contact with other people or not. So they would have been more incentivised to kill the Cop.

Did we learn anything else?