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    Echoes of the Browser Wars

    Microsoft's new "Spartan" browser?

    The question is, will anyone care?

    The browser wars are just about over. Microsoft has lost. Heck, they were never really winning, they just kept going while Netscape tripped over itself for about a decade.

    On the one hand, perhaps they've finally figured out that the "Internet Explorer" name wasn't doing them any favors, regardless of what progress they made or attempted to make. On the other, the name "Microsoft" itself has about as bad a tarnish as IE. So they could call their next browser "free gold and blowjobs", and still they'd be shunned when not simply ignored.

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    They better make this backwards compatible with IE. I still struggle to provide support for software that hasn't been updated to work with versions of IE later than 7. Which, by the way, seems like the only utility anyone uses IE for anymore -- compatibility for products that need some version of IE or another in order to run.

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    From what I gathered on another site's article, they will continue to package IE as a backwards-compatible measure. Meanwhile, I guess they'll march forward into the future with "Spartan". Something like that.

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    From what I gathered on another site's article, they will continue to package IE as a backwards-compatible measure. Meanwhile, I guess they'll march forward into the future with "Spartan". Something like that.
    I cringe at the added compatibility complications that might arise from yet another browser. Although I suspect it will essentially be IE under the hood with a different wrapping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptah View Post
    The question is, will anyone care?
    Given the general reaction to Windows 8/10 and Surface I think the answer is pretty self-evident.
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    From what I gather, they are going to fork Trident (the rendering engine). One for IE/compatibility, one for "Spartan" ongoing? so in a sense, yes, it is just repackaged IE, at least to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptah View Post
    From what I gather, they are going to fork Trident (the rendering engine). One for IE/compatibility, one for "Spartan" ongoing? so in a sense, yes, it is just repackaged IE, at least to start?
    Out of interest have you ever worked on your own HTML/CSS/JS rendering engine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrus View Post
    Out of interest have you ever worked on your own HTML/CSS/JS rendering engine?
    That's a tall order. Not really. I've written XML-dialect parser/UI-renderers before, but that's a much smaller scope than a fully fledged HTML/etc parser/renderer.

    edit: oh, but I have written/am writing my own javascript parser/interpreter/"compiler"/runtime, heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrus View Post
    Out of interest have you ever worked on your own HTML/CSS/JS rendering engine?
    I did this about.. rrr.. 12 - 15 years ago?? A long time ago. Basically back before smartphones but at the advent of mobile phones with proprietary browsers. The project was to develop a platform independent browser and server side XML (basically proprietary CSS before CSS was a thing) that could transform HTML/JS written for PC's into something usable on the phones and small devices of the day. I only remember at the time trying to explain just how impractical the project was while simultaneously working on it. I did some contributions to the Mozilla project at the time, since I was knee deep in the tech. The project made a few bucks for a short time before device advancements made the technology obsolete. The CEO got rich before pulling the plug, anyway. Bastard.
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    Seriously, they named their new browser for this guy?



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