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    Yo Soy Nisman (Argentine and Iranian Intrigue)

    In a Reversal, Argentine President Says Prosecutor’s Death Was Not a Suicide




    As the days go by, instead of knowing more, we know less,” Carlos Pagni, a political commentator, wrote in a column in the newspaper La Nación, in which he pointed to the case’s “tide of unknown quantities.”

    Mr. Nisman had long accused Iran of planning and financing the 1994 attack, which left 85 people dead. But this month he intensified his claims, accusing Mrs. Kirchner and top aides of trying to subvert his 10-year investigation into the bombing — allegations that the government has rejected.

    Using transcripts of intercepted phone calls, Mr. Nisman asserted that the government had pursued a secret deal with Iran to exchange Iranian oil for Argentine grains — and to shield Iranian officials from charges that they had orchestrated the bombing.

    Mr. Nisman had been scheduled to testify to lawmakers about his accusations on Monday. News of his death, just hours before that widely anticipated testimony, stunned Argentina and immediately raised suspicions of a political cover-up to protect the president.
    And in an earlier NY Times article:

    The complaint asserts that the negotiators included Argentine intelligence operatives and Mohsen Rabbani, a former Iranian cultural attaché in Argentina charged with helping to coordinate the bombing.

    In one transcript from 2013, an Argentine union leader and influential supporter of Mrs. Kirchner said he was acting on the orders of the “boss woman,” adding that the government was open to sending a team from the national oil company to advance the negotiations.

    “He’s very interested in exchanging what they have for grains and beef,” said the union leader, Luis D’Elía, referring to a powerful Argentine minister with whom he had just met.

    Another intercept shows negotiators talking about ways to place blame for the bombing on right-wing groups and activists.
    Shocking - The Argentine lefties and Islamic Theoauthoritarians have a common adversary, Western right-wing groups and activists. Sure try to pin blowing up Jews on the pot bangers and taxi drivers trying to make an honest living.

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    Iranian revolutionaries find a virgin in Latin America/Summary of Argentine prosecutor's report

    “According to our Islamic point of view, Latin America is for us and the international
    world, a virgin area, that unfortunately, till now, its huge potential has not been taken
    into account by the Islamic people of Iran. (…) we have a solid support against the
    imperialism and Zionism intrigues, being an important aid in favor of our presence in
    the area”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Iranian revolutionaries find a virgin in Latin America
    Oh oh I got this one! Was it Nisman's ass?
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    Heh. We've been here years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrigal View Post
    Oh oh I got this one! Was it Nisman's ass?
    If an ass could talk...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Shocking - The Argentine lefties and Islamic Theoauthoritarians have a common adversary, Western right-wing groups and activists. Sure try to pin blowing up Jews on the pot bangers and taxi drivers trying to make an honest living.
    What lefties? There are no lefties in this story. If you mean the current Argentine gov, they're centrist if anything.

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    In the dark of night, all the cats are black.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hephaestus View Post
    Heh. We've been here years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrigal View Post
    Oh oh I got this one! Was it Nisman's ass?
    Apparently you're not a Nisman fan. Seems as though he died speaking truth to power and corruption, which I find admirable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lud View Post
    What lefties? There are no lefties in this story. If you mean the current Argentine gov, they're centrist if anything.
    I mean Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and her cronies.

    Kirchnerism, although originally a faction in the Justicialist Party, later received support from other smaller Argentine political parties (like the Communist Party or the Humanist Party), and from factions of some traditional parties (like the Radical Civic Union and the Socialist Party). In parties which are divided along Kirchnerist/Anti-Kirchnerist lines, the members of the Kirchnerist faction are often distinguished with the letter K (for instance "peronistas/justicialistas K", "radicales K" or "socialistas K"),
    And this history indicates lefty to me:
    • Received campaign contributions from Chavez;
    • Raised taxes on soybean exports to 44%;
    • Nationalized private pension funds;
    • Nationalized football (soccer) broadcasting;
    • Partially nationalized Argentina’s largest oil-and-gas company;
    • Granted asylum to Marxist terrorist Galvarino Apablaza; and
    • Cohorts with anti-Western revolutionaries and seeks to pin their crimes on the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Apparently you're not a Nisman fan. Seems as though he died speaking truth to power and corruption, which I find admirable.
    Frankly I find the entire story utterly boring. The only reason why some people in the US seem to care about this has everything to do with the Republican struggle for new sanctions on Iran and the efforts to break Obama's dialogue with the country. Netanyahu's invitation from Boner (I'm not spelling it any other way) to speak to Congress, and Israel's recent assassination of Hezbollah militants in the Golan Heights are also elements of this mounting tension between a US that needs Iran's collaboration and an Israel determined to have things their way. This idiot Nisman was chilling in Europe when the Charlie Hebdo attacks happened and rushed back to Argentina in the middle of our judicial holidays, suddenly with reloaded "evidence" against Iran (and Cristina by extension) that couldn't wait for the courts to open again. The courts apparently decided they could definitely wait, so he was going to make a presentation at Congress. It's very naive to think all this was a coincidence. The man was responding to Israel.

    An estranged ex-diplomat of Israel in Argentina already admitted that the suspects of the bombing - the Syrian and local connections - were killed by Israeli secret services on Argentine soil. The embarassing statement was quickly refuted by Israel and ignored by the government, while the press proceeded to act like nobody said anything. This has been going on for 20 years and the case against Iran was only mounted 10 years after the bombing. Israel isn't that stupid. They already knew who did it much before then. They're not going to suddenly realize Iran has a significant role 10 years later. The was set up with the aid of the CIA and the Mossad when it served US interests to threaten Iran. Nestor Kirchner played along and put Nisman in charge. Wikileaks demonstrates that Nisman didn't lift a finger without first consulting the USA. The humble Nisman from the outskirts of the big city soon became very rich.

    The US approach towards Iran changed a while ago what with the deterioration of things in Iraq and Syria. Cristina took advantage of the shift to negotiate trade with Iran and let go of Nisman's hand. But Cristina's negotiations with Iran are public knowledge. I myself saw her officials (and a union leader) at the airport going to fucking Iran (one of them stopped to talk to us because he's my father's friend - we later shared a laugh at the bizarre pair and their bizarre destination, this was before Chavez died). It wasn't some secret thing. Even now, as the "evidence" is analyzed, it isn't revealing anything we don't already know. Nobody can pin Cristina to hiding any actual evidence because there's no hard case against the Iranian suspects. That's how ridiculous this is. Just to give you an idea, one of these guys was arrested by Interpol in Britain at the request of Argentina some years ago. But when Britain saw the evidence, they refused to extradite him. Britain. They let him go and I think they even had to fucking apologize to the guy, lol. This is the kind of case Nisman was working on. A bullshit case.

    Of course there are no left-wingers here. Just people responding to different economic interests. If there is anything that all of these actors have in common it's their enmity towards the left, and the truth.
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    Heh. We've been here years now.

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