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    Is it un-INTP to Believe in Soul Mates or Twin Flames

    I just wanted to broach the subject of soul mates or what appears to a more recently focused upon subject of twin flames. The idea of a twin flame similar to the concept of a soul mate is that you have one perfect match while you are on this earth and one of your goals is to find them. There is plenty of new agey type literature available on the internet now. Allow me to add some canned background from Wikipedia:

    "A Twin flame is a spiritual (esoteric or New Age) concept describing a special soul connection between two souls. The twin flames are thought to be a template for an ancient/eternal type of relationship between lovers.[1] The fundamental thought behind this concept is that the dawning new era in human spiritual evolution will be a time when relationships foster enhanced spiritual growth between lovers, whereas in previous times and still early in the 21st century couples stayed together for purposes of physical survival and economical safety more than anything else. According to the mythology of twin flames, in the beginning of time we were created from one source,[2] that was split into smaller and smaller units down to two souls (and on rare occasions, halves of one soul) that would journey to Earth to learn and experience duality. They would reincarnate over lifetimes with this longing for each other.[3]

    There are plenty of modernized theories of twin flames, many of which present the view that there is a twin flame for everyone (thus confusing catalytic relationships and soul mates with twin flames) and that the halves of twin flames are not necessarily a male and female, but can also be homosexual. Sometimes, a set of twin souls choose to incarnate as the same sex.[4] There can be many reasons for this. All twin soul relationships are between male and female energies of the same soul. This means that it doesnít matter if we think of ourselves as heterosexual or homosexual. If you meet your twin soul, one of you will be the female half and the other will be the male half, no matter what gender each of you have. When we talk about heterosexual or homosexual relationships, we focus on the gender of the physical body instead of the gender of the soul. When the male and female halves of the same soul meet, both of them can be incarnated in womenís or in menís bodies.[3] At the level of the energies when twin souls meet, they will be drawn to each other. When you meet your twin soul, you will be forced to face your Self.

    Many confuse the twin flame with soul mates (any significant relation), and the rare split soul. Also, some theorists accept that this is not a relationship that can be experienced once in all life cycles only, but repeats over several. However, most take it as a sign of spiritual enlightenment and a sign of evolution. Despite these differing views, the twin flame concept is still very much tied to monogamous ideals, and the thought that only graduate souls have twin flames on Earth, as their purpose is to do spiritual work and energy work to help the Planet. However, that does not mean a twin flame relationship is idealistic, as Soul mate relationships are often more harmonious; twin flames go through a lot of cleansing and purging of the chakras and energy system. With true Twin Flames, the connection is so intense that it causes fear and many of them initially run from the experience (the twin flame runner).[5]"

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    Yes, please turn your INTP badge in at the front desk.

    No, not really. I don't buy it because it assumes the existence of a soul, but I suppose if you believe in that sort of thing it might make sense. At least as much sense as anything else relating to souls or spirits.

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    We all come from a long line of humans who fucked each other and who somehow, alone or in family groups, managed to get the resulting infant to fucking age alive. Although fucking is a necessary condition for winning the evolution game, in a species as altricial as ours, it isn't always sufficient. In order to remain competitive with all the other fuckers, we had to evolve this whole range of really intense feelings and bonds. Horny animals meet in the wild and have no choice but to fuck and variously, depending on which range of instincts they have, form tribes and connections according to those instincts. This destiny stuff, rather than making love seem transcendent, reduces us to animals who must react instead of people who can choose and take action.
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    FWIW, the wikipedia description of 'twin flames' appears to have killed off half a million or so neurons in my brain. But that's just one data point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starjots View Post
    FWIW, the wikipedia description of 'twin flames' appears to have killed off half a million or so neurons in my brain. But that's just one data point.
    Perhaps a source on signs you met your twin flame. That's what I always liked reading.

    1.) Instant Bond

    If you have met your Twin Soul, the bond is immediate.This meeting is often marked by the feeling of finding the one you’ve been looking for, before a word has been exchanged. You instantly find yourself comfortable with this person, as if you already know them.

    2.) Telepathy

    You are naturally telepathic with each other. You can hear each other think sometimes, especially when the thought is about you or addressed to you. You may also decide to call or text each other at the exact same time or without thinking reply to a question that was never spoken.

    3.) Eye Contact

    The eye contact with your Twin Soul is either extremely comfortable or extremely difficult. If it’s just the two of you, it can last forever, but if there are people around who can’t find out how you’re feeling for each other, you will rather turn your backs to each other than look each other in the eye because the eyes reveal everything. It is hard for you both to keep your eyes off each other.

    4.) Aligning birth dates or other special anniversaries or dates

    You should be able to find birth dates that align in a wonderful manner – same or close birthday, different year, one of you is born on a day that is significant to the other somehow…

    5.) Overwhelming feeling of absolute unconditional love

    The most ‘required’ sign of all of these is the feeling of absolute unconditional love towards your Twin (and absolute unconditional hate at times…) The feelings toward your Twin Soul are never tame.

    6.) Explosive Chemistry

    The passion is like nothing you have ever experienced.

    7.) Unpredictable Separation

    You can say or do no wrong when you are in the loving phase, but approaching the separation phase, the smallest thing can blow everything up and separate you for years. A little spat may end up causing a massive rift between you, and it maybe something you’d never fight over with anyone else. You’ll be forgiven for anything (given time) and no normal relationship rules apply.

    8.) All emotions are heightened and exaggerated

    Both negative and positive emotions towards your Twin Soul are exaggerated compared to a normal relationship. When it stings, it stings good – and when it’s good it is amazing. Twin Soul relationships may be very turbulent, your only chance of harmony is to clear as much emotional baggage as possible.

    9.) Meeting young – separating – reuniting

    Usually Twin Soul pairs meet quite young, in early twenties or younger, and meet up again after living and learning a bit. Perhaps even happily ever after? Maybe.

    10.) Chakra pull – vibration

    You may feel a vibration or a pull in one or more of your chakras – usually the heart chakra when you are together or conversing telepathically. You can feeling each other.

    11.) Breathing each other’s soul

    When aligned, you may feel like you were breathing in each other’s souls.

    12.) Shared dreams or reoccurring dreams of “a mystery man” or “a mystery woman”

    You may have had dreams about a mystery man or a mystery woman, or you may have shared the same dream. You also may have seen the places your Twin Soul has visited or lived in in a dream or a vision.

    13.) Reoccurring numbers

    You may be ‘haunted’ by certain numbers, they could be anything that mean something to you, but usually a repeated pair of numbers, most often 11:11 but may not be that. Usually they appear on a clock, but can appear anywhere. There may also be number triplets, in this case most often 111. Also pay attention to repeated dates.

    14.) “Knowing” you are meant to be together

    Feeling of belonging together, feeling of being two halves or a part of the same being.

    I also really enjoyed this article:

    http://mirror-of-my-soul.com/2015/01...ge-true-story/

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    It's absurd to think that there's someone out there for everybody, which is the basis of my understanding of soul mates. Some people are just repulsive to humankind. But if you can tell yourself this hoo-ha and it helps you to stay in a lifelong commited relationship, then God bless ya.

    Glimpses do ye seem to see of that mortally intolerable truth; that all deep, earnest thinking is but the intrepid effort of the soul to keep the open independence of her sea; while the wildest winds of heaven and earth conspire to cast her on the treacherous, slavish shore?

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    Halfway between a TED talk and a romance novel.

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    I think if soul mates exists that there are dozens, not just one. I don't know if I believe in soul mates, but there are some people I feel like I was destined to have in my life, even if only for a little while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attila_the_hunny View Post
    I think if soul mates exists that there are dozens, not just one. I don't know if I believe in soul mates, but there are some people I feel like I was destined to have in my life, even if only for a little while.
    Yes, that's the idea with this emergence of "twin flames". The idea of the twin flame is there is one perfect soul match. But in addition to that there are soulmates, which there can be multiple people.

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    To more directly answer, I've also enjoyed exploring the firmware aspect of being human form time to time. It's mysterious and clearly there's a lot of distributed code grinding away in the universe.

    Science can broadly explain why it exists (see Sistematic) but it's not something we can investigate very well directly yet. Indirect methods are non-standardized, exotic and subjective and therefore apt to be spiced up.

    Soul mates? Borderline believer (souls???), super highly compatible sure as long as you leave out the one and only part. Once you're attached, then I can see it being a one and only situation.

    Twin flames? Still a foreign concept - how old is this idea?

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