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    Quote Originally Posted by Hephaestus View Post
    But more to the point--what if we gave all the depressed people free access to joy juice? Wouldn't that really maximize happiness?

    Breaking News: MDMA has recently been granted FDA appproval, and within hours has grown to be the leading and most requested over-the-counter drug prescribed for chronic depression and anxiety- Shares in Trojan Condoms coincidentally posted a record high today.

    Following that story, President Obama has personally reached out the several known DJs in the techno and dance community to draft a revision to the Star Spangled Banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starla View Post
    I agree, though 99% is a bit high. I think a lot of people could head off depression early on, but any time you mention this, someone who spent three years on their couch not showering chimes in with "but you don't know how hard it is!!!!" as if you're Satan himself for even suggesting that they have a modicum of control over their own mental health. It's like diabetes. Some people get it no matter what they do because they lost the genetic lottery, but most people could've avoided it if they lived a healthier life.

    Also, I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I think a lot of people think that. It's just extremely unpopular with chronically depressed people and pharmaceutical companies.
    Ehh, I don't believe in free will. People aren't really in control of themselves... I mean, what makes someone? Their genes and their environment. Do they really have control over any of these? Not really. So, I don't we think we should blame people for their own problems, since they can't really act any other way, considering their personality, etc.

    Let's say you're depressed. You have zero motication, zero energy, everything around you seems gray, you don't even feel anything anymore. You never see anyone, and the people you do see only do so to berate you for being such a fucking slob. Does that help? Would you really stand up one day and announce: "I shall henceforth stop being depressed"? No, you won't. You don't have the motivation to do so. You don't even have to motivation to kill yourself.

    Your only hope is that you actually have friends who care for you and will direct you to a psychiatrist, who will get you medications to balance your homones. Only then will you be able to do any kind of therapy and do all the things mentioned.

    Don't give people too much credit over their own actions. Everybody seems dumb to someone.

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    You don't go to bed happy and wake up depressed. You slowly sink into it over time. But only if you do nothing to stop it.

    Also, who the hell doesn't have control over their environment? If your environment is depressing you, change your environment.

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    I don't think you understand depression. It's not about not having their "wits about them", it's really just lacking all motivation and energy. It's not that they don't realise they have a problem, they just can't bring themselves to do something about it. It's a hormonal problem, usually, and it's much deeper than just being dumb.
    Don't misunderstand. I would only argue that in the case of depression being caused by unhealthy habits, those depressed have the capability to change them, if they've the knowledge that they're inflicting depression on themselves (it doesn't take a mountain of motivation to realize you want chronic depression to end). That said, I think this approach is a gross oversimplification -- I've been a health nut for years yet no stranger to depression. I will admit, however, that vigilance with diet has lifted my mood on the whole, as has better sleep (cutting porn has helped with that too).

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    Depression can be a valuable tool.

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    Quite often depression is reality that has wormed its way into your consciousness.

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    People who haven't experienced actual clinical depression and aren't doctors generally don't have opinions about it which those suffering from it should bother paying any attention to. Doing so is like asking your priest for advice if you think you might be homosexual.

    It may be somewhat overdiagnosed. As with ADD, ODD, and certain other conditions, I've known people who definitely have cognitive/emotional problems of a debilitating nature that matches the description of these conditions by scientific/medical professionals, whether or not other people are inaccurately diagnosed with them. They haven't been made up as part of some conspiracy.

    Also, children are wonderful, parenting is a rewarding experience, and I usually suspect people who dislike children have psychological problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Mexico View Post
    Also, children are wonderful, parenting is a rewarding experience, and I usually suspect people who dislike children have psychological problems.
    this is a popular opinion.

    edit: not saying i disagree about children being wonderful sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by starla View Post
    I agree, though 99% is a bit high. I think a lot of people could head off depression early on, but any time you mention this, someone who spent three years on their couch not showering chimes in with "but you don't know how hard it is!!!!" as if you're Satan himself for even suggesting that they have a modicum of control over their own mental health. It's like diabetes. Some people get it no matter what they do because they lost the genetic lottery, but most people could've avoided it if they lived a healthier life.

    Also, I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I think a lot of people think that. It's just extremely unpopular with chronically depressed people and pharmaceutical companies.
    i generally agree with this sentiment and i'm not even thinking about clinically depressed people who truly need medication to function or lack absolutely all motivation to take control of their lives even when they really try (i tend to believe them). everybody's quality of life improves dramatically from a good diet, adequate sleep and exercise. it takes effort to change one's habits, but i think that should be the priority and the culture of knee-jerk mental health diagnosing and medicating in the US honestly is disturbing.
    Last edited by jigglypuff; 01-09-2014 at 09:59 PM.

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    I've been diagnosed with depression, ADD, bipolar disorder and even schizophrenia and listening to the opinions of doctors(which generally varied between "we should increase the dosage" and "we should try a different pharmaceutical") never did shit for me other than complicate my mental clarity and waste money. The slow struggle of independently learning to actually care for myself led me out of my crippling addiction and hopelessness onto a path where I'm actually making my life better day by day. I'm not without sympathy for people suffering from depression, not in the slightest, but I can't stand the naysayers who insist that people are helpless and can't make any choices to improve their own lives other than to subscribe to being dependent on magic pills.

    It's the same reason I can't stand Alcoholics Anonymous, it's the shameless promotion of learned helplessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last_caress View Post
    what's up with :3 ? I think zoidberg when I see it.
    Much as I hate to reference this show, that one always reminds me of Peter Griffin's chin:



    Quote Originally Posted by stuck View Post
    Depression can be a valuable tool.
    I had a roommate in college who was manic-depressive and an incredible artist in watercolors and pencils. She could only paint and draw when she was depressed and resisted meds for that reason. She said all the meds she had tried left her empty and dull and completely without art.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Mexico View Post
    Doing so is like asking your priest for advice if you think you might be homosexual.
    If you're Catholic and homosexual, that would be the place to get advice.
    Yes, I smell like a horse. No, I don't consider that a problem.

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