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    I love Utisz.

    I also love the idea of pumping the brakes on all socks for awhile. Although if everyone except me remembered that this was Utisz, then I accept the egg on my face and consider that one not actually a sock account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantastic four inches View Post
    The masculinization of society has gotten out of hand and is as complicit as pornographic addiction to its degradation leading to higher murder rates, exploitative consumerism, and a culture of stoic depression and alienation grown wildly out of control. In effect, civilization has become one large extension of the male urinal, wherein, driven to win the pissing contest at all costs, individuals are kept insecure well-beyond adulthood, blinded to any of the indifferent realities that might upset their sensitive egos, and also, where any attempts to confront those insecurities by the few remaining cognizant individuals is seen as either emasculating or conceited for its association with an unbridled altruistic will.

    Those are my thoughts this morning. Yours?
    what you are not taking into account is that there are people who are actively sabotaging society so that you willingly give up on it.

    you are not going to accept a new society while you are still content with this one; you have to first be made to hate the current system

    This was the purpose of 'critical theory' which has been taught in western universities since the 1920's. It teaches you to criticise every aspect of your society and culture but without ever offering any solution. The architects of critical theory never offered their solution because if they told you what they have planned for you you would likely reject it in disgust and horror

    The great depression was caused by the sabotage of the bankers. They schemed to create a central bank which they achieved in 1913 with the creation of the federal reserve bill except the federal reserve is neither federal because its a cartel of private banks and neither is it a reserve as it has nothing on deposit. it simply creates money out of thin air and then charges the government interest on it

    After the creation of that act through subterfuge by passing the act whilst most congressmen were out on recess they then made credit plentiful by lending lots of money to the US public. This led to the boom time known as the 'roaring twenties'. People felt confident and took out loans to start businesses and buy homes. Then the central bank shrunk the money supply thereby preventing people from repaying their loans which they took out during the boom times.

    People lost their businesses, homes and cars which the banks then snapped up for pennies on the dollar or repossessed.

    This scam is repeated periodically every generation or so and is known euphemistically as the 'business cycle' as if it is some sort of naturally occurring thing like the seasons. It is not however natural and is totally orchestrated by the central bankers

    The 2008 housing crisis for example happened after the banks lent out money for mortgages to 'sub prime' borrowers who would not be able to pay off their loans if interest rates rose which of course they did. Meanwhile the banks packaged up those toxic mortgages into 'derivatives' and got the rating agencies which they own anyway to rate them triple A to make everyone in the market place think they were safe products. they were then sold all around the world so that when sub prime mortgage holders began to default the derivatives all exploded causing a systemic collapse the extent of which few could predict

    The banks failed and the governments bailed them out with taxpayers money instead of letting them fail as they should have done under capitalism. This then led to governments claiming they needed to cut public services and impose 'austerity' on the real economy of production and consumption

    So that was economic sabotage and we have seen many other forms of economic sabotage eg the destruction of glass-steagal and the creation of neoliberalism but society is being sabotaged on ALL fronts

    People are all being turned against each other through identity politics for example the orchestrated 'battle of the sexes' between men and women which is a totally false war which has no winners

    That is part of a cultural sabotage which also involves the pushing of corrupting popular culture, pornography, dumbed down education and attacks on all the pillars of society

    Capitalism isn't failing, it is being undermined

    The whole masculine v's feminine thing is only relevant in so far as gender identity is being destroyed which will have a number of results. One result is that people will lose their fertility and ability or will to breed causing population collapse. Another problem is that people will become weak and compliant and unable to provide any resistance to the creation of a new society

    we are being socially engineered and its not the fault of men or 'masculinity'. It is IDEOLOGICALLY driven by people who have their own vision of how they can control everyone else including you

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    Sperm counts in the West plunge by 60% in 40 years as ‘modern life’ damages men’s health
    Pesticides, hormone-disrupting chemicals, diet, stress, smoking and obesity have all been suggested as possible reasons behind the dramatic declines but experts say more research is urgently needed

    Ian Johnston Science Correspondent
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    Tuesday 25 July 2017 17:00 BST

    Sperm counts have plunged by nearly 60 per cent in just 40 years among men living in the West, according to a major review of scientific studies that suggests the modern world is causing serious damage to men’s health.

    Pesticides, hormone-disrupting chemicals, diet, stress, smoking and obesity have all been “plausibly associated” with the problem, which is associated with a range of other illnesses such as testicular cancer and a generally increased mortality rate.

    The researchers who carried out the review said the rate of decline had showed no sign of “levelling off” in recent years.

    The same trend was not seen in other parts of the world such as South America, Africa and Asia, although the scientists said fewer studies had been carried out there.

    One expert commenting on the study said it was the “most comprehensive to date”, and described the figures as “shocking” and a “wake-up call” for urgent research into the reasons driving the fall.

    Writing in the journal Human Reproduction Update, the researchers – from Israel, the US, Denmark, Brazil and Spain – said total sperm count had fallen by 59.3 per cent between 1971 and 2011 in Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand. Sperm concentration fell by 52.4 per cent.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...-a7859491.html

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    As well as mentioning pesticides in that article above which definately ARE a genotoxin they should also mention cell phones which emit microwaves all day as they regularly 'ping' cell phone towers every few seconds and where do most people keep their cell phones?

    That's right...in their pockets right next to their love spuds. mens balls are being irradiated

    But before any man hating militant marxist feminists start celebrating at this invisible assault on men they should consider that female girls contain all their eggs which can be affected by microwaves. Wifi in schools emits microwaves which are able to have an epigentic effect; in other worlds they are able to affect gene function and distort the genetic code in girls eggs as young girls bodies are not very resistant to microwaves which is why children are not supposed to use cell phones as they can give them brain cancer

    Once that DNA coding that has been passed down to you from your ancestors from the very beginning of the human experience, is distorted it will then be passed on to all future generations as a distorted code leading to the birth of countless disabled and deformed children which those mothers will then have to care for

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    Quote Originally Posted by mara View Post
    what you are not taking into account is that there are people who are actively sabotaging society so that you willingly give up on it.

    you are not going to accept a new society while you are still content with this one; you have to first be made to hate the current system

    This was the purpose of 'critical theory' which has been taught in western universities since the 1920's. It teaches you to criticise every aspect of your society and culture but without ever offering any solution. The architects of critical theory never offered their solution because if they told you what they have planned for you you would likely reject it in disgust and horror

    The great depression was caused by the sabotage of the bankers. They schemed to create a central bank which they achieved in 1913 with the creation of the federal reserve bill except the federal reserve is neither federal because its a cartel of private banks and neither is it a reserve as it has nothing on deposit. it simply creates money out of thin air and then charges the government interest on it

    After the creation of that act through subterfuge by passing the act whilst most congressmen were out on recess they then made credit plentiful by lending lots of money to the US public. This led to the boom time known as the 'roaring twenties'. People felt confident and took out loans to start businesses and buy homes. Then the central bank shrunk the money supply thereby preventing people from repaying their loans which they took out during the boom times.

    People lost their businesses, homes and cars which the banks then snapped up for pennies on the dollar or repossessed.

    This scam is repeated periodically every generation or so and is known euphemistically as the 'business cycle' as if it is some sort of naturally occurring thing like the seasons. It is not however natural and is totally orchestrated by the central bankers

    The 2008 housing crisis for example happened after the banks lent out money for mortgages to 'sub prime' borrowers who would not be able to pay off their loans if interest rates rose which of course they did. Meanwhile the banks packaged up those toxic mortgages into 'derivatives' and got the rating agencies which they own anyway to rate them triple A to make everyone in the market place think they were safe products. they were then sold all around the world so that when sub prime mortgage holders began to default the derivatives all exploded causing a systemic collapse the extent of which few could predict

    The banks failed and the governments bailed them out with taxpayers money instead of letting them fail as they should have done under capitalism. This then led to governments claiming they needed to cut public services and impose 'austerity' on the real economy of production and consumption

    So that was economic sabotage and we have seen many other forms of economic sabotage eg the destruction of glass-steagal and the creation of neoliberalism but society is being sabotaged on ALL fronts

    People are all being turned against each other through identity politics for example the orchestrated 'battle of the sexes' between men and women which is a totally false war which has no winners

    That is part of a cultural sabotage which also involves the pushing of corrupting popular culture, pornography, dumbed down education and attacks on all the pillars of society

    Capitalism isn't failing, it is being undermined

    The whole masculine v's feminine thing is only relevant in so far as gender identity is being destroyed which will have a number of results. One result is that people will lose their fertility and ability or will to breed causing population collapse. Another problem is that people will become weak and compliant and unable to provide any resistance to the creation of a new society

    we are being socially engineered and its not the fault of men or 'masculinity'. It is IDEOLOGICALLY driven by people who have their own vision of how they can control everyone else including you
    You aren't going back nearly far enough in history. The story of Socrates is a victory lap by Sophists. Of course, Socrates himself was a deconstructionist because he recognized that the world at that time was in need of a good refactoring. Nothing has changed but the window dressing and the amount of scientific knowledge acquired to confirm that yes, people are stupid.
    Every master plan has one overarching contingency that will be required for success: desenrascanço. In light of this, it is tempting to skip the planning phase and just make desenrascanço your master plan. I don't recommend this, but it has worked out for me in the past to an alarming degree. The problem is it keeps you too focused on the short term to ever improve your situation in the long.
    --Meditations on Uncertainty Vol ξ(x)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    If there was ever such a thing as a masculine society, this is the least masculine its ever been.
    And to be clear, I don't think it's a bad thing.
    "All my heroes are dead" - John Zorn

    "It's not selfish if you hate yourself"

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    @Faust, Sparta comes to mind. Possibly Slab City.
    Every master plan has one overarching contingency that will be required for success: desenrascanço. In light of this, it is tempting to skip the planning phase and just make desenrascanço your master plan. I don't recommend this, but it has worked out for me in the past to an alarming degree. The problem is it keeps you too focused on the short term to ever improve your situation in the long.
    --Meditations on Uncertainty Vol ξ(x)

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    I think women are advancing quickly in the world...and in a way, women may seem more masculine, in the sense that we're seeing women in roles of power, and in general, it is cooler for women to be more assertive and self-assured these days...and if we look at certain things like this, it may seem like society is becoming more masculine...I mean, supposing that Hillary had won the election, it would not be indicative of society becoming more effete...because there's very little about Hillary that's at least classically feminine.

    If we're willing to look at the social changes from a different angle, however, it seems that women are becoming more in touch with the power of their proverbial 'voice', while men are falling behind, because we're losing the race to get more in touch with the power of our proverbial 'hearts'.

    While it may seem like women are becoming masculine and men are becoming more feminine, really, we're probably all just becoming more whole. Women are still feminine, plus they are vocal, powerful, and they stand to be counted (more than in the past). Men are still strong and powerful, but we're also on a path of learning vulnerability, compassion, gentleness, and nurturing (more than in the past).
    ...the origin of emotional sickness lay in people’s belief that they were their personalities...
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    @Robcore, men have always known vulnerability. That's the point of Achilles, Sigurd, Heracles, and Agamemnon. It's the point of armour. Doubtless there are dozens of other significant examples, but those leap to mind.

    It's even in the lore of alcohol as liquid courage.

    I mention it because it's also the point of trust. Trust is not new. It's only slightly older than betrayal.
    Every master plan has one overarching contingency that will be required for success: desenrascanço. In light of this, it is tempting to skip the planning phase and just make desenrascanço your master plan. I don't recommend this, but it has worked out for me in the past to an alarming degree. The problem is it keeps you too focused on the short term to ever improve your situation in the long.
    --Meditations on Uncertainty Vol ξ(x)

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    Wearing armor is not being vulnerable. Knowing about vulnerability is not the same as being vulnerable. Men are great at being guarded. Doesn't mean that they understand vulnerability.
    ...the origin of emotional sickness lay in people’s belief that they were their personalities...
    "The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense, not between right and wrong." ~Carl Jung

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