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    Quote Originally Posted by Catoptric View Post
    Some argue that avoiding fluoride is far better for teeth health;
    Some also argue that the earth is flat. The US even has a head of the Environmental Protection Agency (science based organisation) who argues that there's no evidence for evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyng1 View Post
    Some also argue that the earth is flat. The US even has a head of the Environmental Protection Agency (science based organisation) who argues that there's no evidence for evolution.
    http://www.newsweek.com/fluoridation...y-shows-348251

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catoptric View Post
    Drink up
    Be hard to avoid fluoride in at least three of those countries that article says aren't fluoridated as they have naturally occurring fluoride in their water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyng1 View Post
    Be hard to avoid fluoride in at least three of those countries that article says aren't fluoridated as they have naturally occurring fluoride in their water.
    naturally occurring hey?

    so not the flouride that is added as a toxic by product of the aluminium industry...and therefore not the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyng1 View Post
    Some also argue that the earth is flat. The US even has a head of the Environmental Protection Agency (science based organisation) who argues that there's no evidence for evolution.
    ah so you are for the adding of toxic byproduct to the water supply...well who would have guessed?!

    so you will particularly love the way that it can interact with the aluminium in vaccines to cause health problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catoptric View Post
    In the US they specially promote fluoride (and fluoride mouth rinse) to children.

    Some argue that avoiding fluoride is far better for teeth health; that fluoride stuns the healthy regrowth of the teeth (that teeth basically heal and regrows enamel much like growing fingernails or skin.) I've actually brushed less and have pretty much drank non-fluoridated water for several years now (using a RO filter and reconstituting using mineral concentrate as otherwise you can create greater health concerns by not getting minerals in diet.) Flossing and avoiding plaque (and eating certain foods will brush the teeth without needing a toothbrush.) Decay mostly comes from certain kinds of foods that get lodged in between the teeth, and due to poor hygiene (in addition to overall health.)
    flouride calcifies the pineal gland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith View Post
    Is there a longitudinal study that supports this claim other than “one well-conducted Chinese study” with source unknown?
    sure...

    Fluoride water 'causes cancer'
    Boys at risk from bone tumours, shock research reveals
    Bob Woffinden
    Sun 12 Jun 2005 02.06 BST First published on Sun 12 Jun 2005 02.06 BST

    Fluoride in tap water can cause bone cancer in boys, a disturbing new study indicates, although there is no evidence of a link for girls.

    New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma - bone cancer - bet-ween the ages of 10 and 19.

    In the UK, fluoride is added to tap water on the advice of bodies such as the British Dental Association. The Department of Health maintains that it is a cost-effective public health measure that helps prevent tooth decay in children.

    About 10 per cent of the population, six million people, receive fluoridated water, mainly in the Midlands and north-east, and the government plans to extend this, with Manchester expected to be next. About 170 million Americans live in areas with fluoridated water.

    The increased cancer risks, identified in a newly available study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health, were found at fluoride exposure levels common in both the US and Britain. It was the first examination of the link between exposure to the chemical at the critical period of a child's development and the age of onset of bone cancer.

    Although osteosarcoma is rare, accounting for only about 3 per cent of childhood cancers, it is especially dangerous. The mortality rate in the first five years is about 50 per cent, and nearly all survivors have limbs amputated, usually legs.

    The research has been made available by the Environmental Working Group (EWG), a respected Washington-based research organisation.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...h.genderissues

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    Are fluoride levels in drinking water associated with hypothyroidism prevalence in England? A large observational study of GP practice data and fluoride levels in drinking water
    S Peckham, D Lowery, S Spencer

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    Background While previous research has suggested that there is an association between fluoride ingestion and the incidence of hypothyroidism, few population level studies have been undertaken. In England, approximately 10% of the population live in areas with community fluoridation schemes and hypothyroidism prevalence can be assessed from general practice data. This observational study examines the association between levels of fluoride in water supplies with practice level hypothyroidism prevalence.

    Methods We used a cross-sectional study design using secondary data to develop binary logistic regression models of predictive factors for hypothyroidism prevalence at practice level using 2012 data on fluoride levels in drinking water, 2012/2013 Quality and Outcomes Framework (QOF) diagnosed hypothyroidism prevalence data, 2013 General Practitioner registered patient numbers and 2012 practice level Index of Multiple Deprivation scores.

    Findings We found that higher levels of fluoride in drinking water provide a useful contribution for predicting prevalence of hypothyroidism. We found that practices located in the West Midlands (a wholly fluoridated area) are nearly twice as likely to report high hypothyroidism prevalence in comparison to Greater Manchester (non-fluoridated area).
    http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/20...ch-2014-204971

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    Fluoride in Water Linked to Lower IQ in Children
    Dec 21, 2010, 13:53 ET from Fluoride Action Network

    NEW YORK, Dec. 21, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Exposure to fluoride may lower children's intelligence says a study pre-published in Environmental Health Perspectives, a publication of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (online December 17, 2010).

    Fluoride is added to 70% of U.S. public drinking water supplies.

    According to Paul Connett, Ph.D., director of the Fluoride Action Network, "This is the 24th study that has found this association, but this study is stronger than the rest because the authors have controlled for key confounding variables and in addition to correlating lowered IQ with levels of fluoride in the water, the authors found a correlation between lowered IQ and fluoride levels in children's blood. This brings us closer to a cause and effect relationship between fluoride exposure and brain damage in children."

    "What is also striking is that the levels of the fluoride in the community where the lowered IQs were recorded were lower than the EPA's so-called 'safe' drinking water standard for fluoride of 4 ppm and far too close for comfort to the levels used in artificial fluoridation programs (0.7 – 1.2 ppm)," says Connett.

    In this study, 512 children aged 8-13 years in two Chinese villages were studied and tested – Wamaio with an average of 2.47 mg/L water fluoride (range 0.57-4.50 mg/L) and Xinhuai averaging 0.36 mg/L (range 0.18-0.76 mg/L).

    The authors eliminated both lead exposure and iodine deficiency as possible causes for the lowered IQs. They also excluded any children who had a history of brain disease or head injury and none drank brick tea, known to contain high fluoride levels. Neither village is exposed to fluoride pollution from burning coal or other industrial sources.

    About 28% of the children in the low-fluoride area scored as bright, normal or higher intelligence compared to only 8% in the "high" fluoride area of Wamaio.

    In the high-fluoride city, 15% had scores indicating mental retardation and only 6% in the low-fluoride city.

    The study authors write: "In this study we found a significant dose-response relation between fluoride level in serum and children's IQ."

    In addition to this study, and the 23 other IQ studies, there have been over 100 animal studies linking fluoride to brain damage (all the IQ and animal brain studies are listed in Appendix 1 in The Case Against Fluoride available online at http://fluoridealert.org/caseagainst...ppendices.html).
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...112261459.html

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    One of the earliest animal studies of fluoride's impact on the brain was published in the U.S. This study by Mullenix et. al (1995) led to the firing of the lead author by the Forsyth Dental Center. "This sent a clear message to other researchers in the U.S. that it was not good for their careers to look into the health effects of fluoride – particularly on the brain," says Connett.

    Connett adds, "The result is that while the issue of fluoride's impact on IQ is being aggressively pursued around the world, practically no work has been done in the U.S. or other fluoridating countries to repeat their findings. Sadly, health agencies in fluoridated countries seem to be more intent on protecting the fluoridation program than protecting children's brains."

    When the National Research Council of the National Academies reviewed this topic in their 507-page report "Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Review of EPA's Standards" published in 2006, only 5 of the 24 IQ studies were available in English. Even so the panel found the link between fluoride exposure and lowered IQ both consistent and "plausible."

    According to Tara Blank, Ph.D., the Science and Health Officer for the Fluoride Action Network, "This should be the study that finally ends water fluoridation. Millions of American children are being exposed unnecessarily to this neurotoxin on a daily basis. Who in their right minds would risk lowering their child's intelligence in order to reduce a small amount of tooth decay, for which the evidence is very weak." (see The Case Against Fluoride, Chelsea Green, October 2010)
    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...112261459.html

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