Quote Originally Posted by Sinny View Post
I'm not sure how the definitions of weak & strong play into this statement..
It has to do with how you insulate yourself from seeing them how they saw themselves.

I suppose their condition was ultimately terminal.. that is interesting.
But still depression is in the mind, and if you can't win a battle in your own mind, then I think that makes you weak.
A battle in your mind is much much harder than a battle in physical world. Depression is like a cancer or an autoimmune disease. It rips away your tools to defend yourself, and warps your perceptions and ability to think.

Yeah, but depression is internal, getting hit by a car is external.
See above. Also note that external events have effects on and can be the starting point for depression. That's why changing external things in your life is one of the weapons people try to wield against it.

Yea well, maybe accepting that you lost a loved one through no fault of their own (getting hit by a car) is easier than accepting that a loved one decided to take the quickest and easiest route of of life, despite the hole they would leave in their loved ones lives.
I haven't found this to be true.

And that's my point.
I'm aware. It's what I'm arguing is fallacious. Being weaker than another person doesn't mean you are weak. Just because "A" is weaker than "B" doesn't mean "A" is weak. That's a flawed concept.

We are all weak.
Weakness is the human condition.
If that is your thinking, then we're halfway to a quorum.

You've lost me..
Stephen Hawking endured far longer with his condition than anyone in known history. Does that mean all the people who died within a few years of being diagnosed with ALS are weak and worthy of contempt?

@RDF: Excellent contributions to the discussion. You've better explained what I was talking about regarding the balance between internal locus of control and the uncomfortably large influence of luck.