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    Quote Originally Posted by stuck View Post
    Strong case of starting every sentence with I.
    Word.
    All truth passes through three stages:

    First, it is ridiculed.
    Second, it is violently opposed.
    Third, it is accepted as self-evident.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDaMan View Post
    I have no desire to fit into any society, I consider having to change myself to fit in to be a concession to who I really am. I have no desire for marriage or a family. I dont want to live past 55. I have a handful of friends and that has been dwindling over the years. I hate my job but I guess most people do. I enjoy throwing myself into projects every now and then. I have a strong desire not to subscribe to modes of thinking that are not my own. I do not let society dictate my moral compass. I have no desire to fit in. I like authentic people but those are hard to come by. I make people uncomfortable and I dont mind that. I think most people are idiots. I have a keen understanding of human nature and find most people predictable. I struggle to sleep at night. I enjoy philosophy and psychology and lately mathematics. I have no desire for a normal life. I have a stoic approach to life. I don't want to be too involved in things as they would stick to me and drag me down. I consider myself to be a very free spirit. I understand freedom at a level most people do not or cannot. I am working towards being financially independent and hence free.
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    Heh. We've been here years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrigal View Post
    Young
    I think you are spot on here. I went through this phase.

    In fact, I can picture 20 year old me writing this exact thing. Here's what I'd say to me. My situation was my own, so none of this may apply to @DaDaMan.



    I have no desire to fit into any society, I consider having to change myself to fit in to be a concession to who I really am.
    Young me, I know you don't have a lot of control right now, but whenever you are finally in a place where you can have most of the input on your "home" space, always make sure it is a place where you can drop all the facades. When you are out making concessions, just make a game of it and be good at the game. Every day is Halloween. But come home to a place where you don't have to apologize for being a weirdo. Bonus points when you find a job you can say that about...but it's going to be awhile. You have to be pretty high level before you can do that. If you do it too early, it won't end well.

    I have no desire for marriage or a family.
    Young sista, you don't know what you want. Bear with me here. Wanting to be wanted does not mean you want what the people who want you want you to want. Yes, you are a special snowflake, but you aren't THE special snowflake that that special snowflake of a guy wants you to be, so stop projecting other people's custom snowflakes onto yourself. It's not real. You aren't that egg in star trek that becomes whatever the people around her want her to be so stop it. Just stop. I know you don't think that's what you are doing but it totally is. So just don't. It's going to lead to two very stupid marriages. So yeah, maybe don't marry the first two spouses...except maybe that you wouldn't be who/where you are if you don't, so never mind. I think we are just going to have to go through all that. Just know that you'll get through it all. It's gonna be fine.

    PS: You are perfectly happy without kids. That thing where everyone says you are going to regret not having them when it's too late. Nope. It's too late and you are really glad you didn't have kids.

    I dont want to live past 55.
    Trust me, when you get closer to 55 you'll change your tune. Life is pretty great here at 48. I'm getting more and more control. I have every reason to hope 55 will be one of the greatest years of my life. Young me, I know you don't believe that. I get it. I was you once. It just doesn't seem realistic. So get off your ass and make it realistic. Oh, wait, I guess you did. Shocking, right! Good job young sista! (Everyone else is shocked that we made it this far too.)

    I have a handful of friends and that has been dwindling over the years.
    That's a good thing, young me. Seriously, a lot of those people are assholes. You'll see, young me. That whole "make new friends but keep the old" thing. Total bullshit. Don't fall for it. If a friendship feels like a constant drain on your life, even if they haven't done a damn thing wrong to cause it, even if it's just because of how you naturally interact with them, stop pouring your energy in. Some friendships just don't work and that's fine. There are probably thousands of people in the world who are awesome and amazing and deserving of your time and energy. Doesn't mean you have it to give. Cull. Be picky. It's ok. No, really... if you try to be there for everyone, you'll end up being there for no one. The more friends you have, the less of a friend you are. If you divide yourself by infinity, the result is zero. I think. You know how you enjoy math...we got really good at it in grad school. Like really really good. But now we don't do that much with it. Yeah...grad school! You totally did that! Try not to faint.

    I hate my job but I guess most people do. I enjoy throwing myself into projects every now and then.
    The less you need, the less you need to work to bring it. Remember that when you choose a car. Remember that when you choose where in the country to live. Remember that when you are deciding between fixing up your fixer upper and paying it off. Remember that when borrowing money. You did pretty good on this one though...so just keep being low maintenance and you won't have to spend all your time maintaining when you are too old for it.

    I have a strong desire not to subscribe to modes of thinking that are not my own. I do not let society dictate my moral compass. I have no desire to fit in. I like authentic people but those are hard to come by. I make people uncomfortable and I dont mind that. I think most people are idiots. I have a keen understanding of human nature and find most people predictable. I struggle to sleep at night. I enjoy philosophy and psychology and lately mathematics. I have no desire for a normal life. I have a stoic approach to life. I don't want to be too involved in things as they would stick to me and drag me down. I consider myself to be a very free spirit. I understand freedom at a level most people do not or cannot.
    Young sista: Imagine a forest in which every tree is falling as dramatically as possible and there is no such thing as an ear. You are one of those trees. If you could maybe try to install an ear on yourself, you'll be able to hear the forest and the trees. Seriously young sista, you need to pay attention. Maybe if you could go ahead and do that now, maybe the early 90s won't scar you so bad ... never mind. You only learn shit the hard way. You are just going to have to go through all that. And you aren't listening to a word I say are you. No ears. Goddammit. Sigh, it's all going to be ok eventually. Just buckle up buttercup. Gonna be a bumpy ride.

    PS: Young, hot, blonde, tall, athletic, doublejointed, naive little sista....no one cares about any of that shit you just said. They are just pretending you are making interesting word sounds because ... well you'll figure it out.

    I am working towards being financially independent and hence free.
    The more you have, the less free you are. Everything you care about is a tether. Being happy and satisfied isn't about being untethered, it's about tethering yourself to the right things and the right people. Look for things that are easy to maintain and people who require no facade and who do not take more than they give on average, and who are not themselves tethered to things and people who take too much of their energy. Don't delude yourself into thinking you can be untethered and happy. There are going to be moments in your life where you are needed and that's occasionally annoying and ultimately more satisfying that you realize when the needs you are fulfilling aren't fabricated, but (god, I know you don't believe this part at all but it's true) you WILL be the one who needs sometimes. If you are untethered at those moments, or worse yet, tethered to things that do nothing but drain you ... that will suck a lot. ....sigh. You'll figure it out. You figured it out. We figured it out. It'll be fine.
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    To @Sistamatic's observations, I'd add this: thinking you are the only one who sees how ineffably effed up things are reflects a poorly developed theory of mind and a refusal to understand what "ineffable" means. I used to think no one else saw what I saw because I never heard other people talk about it, and their behavior seems to imply buying in. Then I realized I don't talk about it either, so silence on the matter doesn't mean a lack of insight, and I participate in this clusterfuck to survive too. Later, on the heels of that insight it occurred to me that people are talking about it--all the time, often somewhat coded, but often openly and I just... wasn't listening. There were and are a lot of people of various intelligence levels and backgrounds who saw and see things much like I did and now do. They just had different needs and resources so had to adapt in different ways to get by in what they knew was a strange and oppressive system that fed on them. They didn't rebel openly because they felt powerless--and generally we all are powerless against it.

    Individually.

    But it's hard for us to work together without our efforts being compromised by the same confounding forces we want to rebel against.



    Billions of people endure things I can't put up with. On the other hand, I can strike out on my own, and have the courage to do so. I have the strength to fail and fail and fail again. I'm not stronger than those who endure the common grind, I'm just strong in a different direction. What I can't endure, I change--out of necessity. Most don't find it necessary. That is their strength.

    A former friend once observed that our greatest strengths are our greatest weaknesses. It's like that. Their strength to endure keeps others trapped in what I find unbearable--but it also gives them paths to survival that I can't access because they would kill me. My strength to change what I cannot accept is the key to me finding life satisfaction, but it's also a narrow path because nothing less will work in the long run.
    Last edited by Hephaestus; 12-18-2019 at 01:45 AM. Reason: rep had a better phrasing. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxyjen View Post
    What makes you think you need to be diagnosed?
    I am very different to the norm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sistamatic View Post
    The answer is implicit. It follows from your own word choice in the thread title, both definitively and thematically.

    You didn't say how old you are.
    37

    Quote Originally Posted by Limes View Post
    Syphilis and melancholy
    I will get myself checked.

    Quote Originally Posted by pensive_pilgrim View Post
    Seeking diagnosis implies something's wrong. But it seems like you just want to argue with somebody who tells you there is something wrong with you. You've come to the right place. I diagnose you with excited delirium.
    🤙
    Quote Originally Posted by roki View Post
    Narcissism

    Not saying you have full blown NPD



    Agreed, especially with all of the "I" usage



    This blurb of text reeks of illusion of asymmetric insight, trait ascription bias, and illusory superiority.

    DaDaMan, people will surprise you. Give them another chance.



    Is this bait to get someone to ask what you mean by this? I'll take it.

    What are you, a nudist or something?
    So people who use I a lot are narcissistic? Got it👍

    People dont surprise me, everyone is an open book to me. They love the safely of the shores and have not explored their inner depths.They are mostly still slaves to the dragon "Thou Shalt". But I am a tight rope walker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limes View Post
    What is your favourite genre of pornography?
    I dont know what genre it would be, but I like rough animalistic raw sex...Male on female.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinny View Post
    Well, the definition of a "disorder" in the way you are using it refers to patterns of behaviour that really prevents you from living a "regular" fulfilled life, so based on your statements thus far, there's not enough evidence to go by, as you haven't said if these patterns of behaviour are keeping you from living a fulfilling happy life.

    Having said that, from the little information you have provided thus far, you'd most closely fit Schizoid personality type.
    The description of schizoid personality type matches a stoic personality type.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blorg View Post
    If this were true, you wouldn't have felt compelled to describe yourself like one of the most-revered stereotypes in American pop culture. And you wouldn't be asking for a diagnosis.

    No, you're probably not a loner genius who is only considered insane because society is too banal to understand you. That is not my diagnosis.

    IME you just sound like you've been isolated for too long. Loneliness is like hunger in that you don't realize how much it's affecting you after a while. Get some fresh air, make some new friends.
    What revered stereotype is that?

    I did not claim to be a genius.

    I didn't choose the thug life, the thug life chose me.

    I am thus by design.

    Quote Originally Posted by starla View Post
    Wow, this is the worst case of Ptah I've ever seen.
    I am a bit more open minded and not as anal.

    Quote Originally Posted by roki View Post
    Moar :s and ;s and he'll reach his full potential
    Does not compute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    That's the thing about the romanticized tortured-genius self-perception. It's about how you want others to perceive you, from lack of validation. It sounds familiar enough to me.

    I think ignoring loneliness or seeing it as a weakness is a mistake. Contact is a fundamental human need. We can't really "measure" what we need but experience from booting myself in the ass to address this area shows that it boosts mood and ambition considerably. The catch is most people are kind of dull. Fortunately, a few friends go a long way. Some are low-maintenance.
    I did not claim to be a genius.

    I dont have an issue with loneliness or feeling lonely. I have a few friends, but I dont let anyone too close. They aren't ready to handle the fullness of the entity that I am, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuck View Post
    Strong case of starting every sentence with I.
    Best diagnosis so far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thoth View Post
    Diagnosis: Obviously mocking.
    What?
    Quote Originally Posted by Madrigal View Post
    Young
    Nope

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    The "I" thing is sometimes called a marker of depression, which is why I agreed with Johnson. The narcissistic traits part was largely unrelated to that and hinged more on the blurb of bolded text

    "They aren't ready to handle the fullness of the entity that I am"

    Get a load of this guy

    Also, you never responded to the freedom thing. What'd you mean by it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDaMan View Post
    What?
    I think you're looking for a barrel of fish.

    Early 20h century reference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaDaMan View Post
    I have no desire to fit into any society, I consider having to change myself to fit in to be a concession to who I really am. I have no desire for marriage or a family. I dont want to live past 55. I have a handful of friends and that has been dwindling over the years. I hate my job but I guess most people do. I enjoy throwing myself into projects every now and then. I have a strong desire not to subscribe to modes of thinking that are not my own. I do not let society dictate my moral compass. I have no desire to fit in. I like authentic people but those are hard to come by. I make people uncomfortable and I dont mind that. I think most people are idiots. I have a keen understanding of human nature and find most people predictable. I struggle to sleep at night. I enjoy philosophy and psychology and lately mathematics. I have no desire for a normal life. I have a stoic approach to life. I don't want to be too involved in things as they would stick to me and drag me down. I consider myself to be a very free spirit. I understand freedom at a level most people do not or cannot. I am working towards being financially independent and hence free.
    If you were 18, I would have simply said that you're full of yourself. But given that you're 37 it might be the leading edge of an INTP's version of a mid-life crisis? You know, falling into a stoic/schizoid rut: Absence of connection, enthusiasms, enjoyment of life...

    Just guessing.

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    "Thinking you are the only one who sees how ineffably effed up things are reflects a poorly developed theory of mind and a refusal to understand what "ineffable" means."

    So true *points attributively*

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDF View Post
    If you were 18, I would have simply said that you're full of yourself. But given that you're 37 it might be the leading edge of an INTP's version of a mid-life crisis? You know, falling into a stoic/schizoid rut: Absence of connection, enthusiasms, enjoyment of life...

    Just guessing.
    But but but aren't INTPs modern-day Nietzsches?

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